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Wow! AV had to go all of the way back to 1890 to find a long-dead scholar who agrees with him!
Strong said:1) day, time, year
a) day (as opposed to night)
b) day (24 hour period)
1) as defined by evening and morning in Genesis 1
2) as a division of time
a) a working day,
b) a day's journey
c) days, lifetime (pl.)
d) time, period (general)
e) year
f) temporal references
1) today
2) yesterday
3) tomorrow
Fine. Please do not mention the Bible to me again or defer to religion in any way. You are confusing your arguments; bouncing between a purely naturalistc belief and attacking my interpretation of a Bible you don't believe in. There's no sense in using Biblical arguments with a person that doesn't believe in God. You can't separate the miracles of God from God. If you don't believe in miracles, then the world is your god.
You're welcome.Wow! AV had to go all of the way back to 1890 to find a long-dead scholar who agrees with him!
Hmmm, I wonder if scholarship has made any progress in the past 122 years? Ya think? (Naaaah. I mean, what are the chances of that?)
Plus, AV once posted "Lexicons can take a hike!" But in this case, he cites the lexicon portion of an 1890 English Bible tool for laypeople. (Hmmm, I wonder if that is selective use of evidence----the kind of evidence that he usually says can take a hike?)
No doubt he and KWCrazy are both accustomed to having their tails between their legs after such topics are raised. AV apparently abandoned the 6+1=7day week argument of my post and instead resorted to simple denial. Good for him. It's all he's got.
But if you're talking about evidence about the Creation week, no evidence in the universe is going to convince me I'm wrong.
What do you mean Strong didn't agree with me?But Strong didn't entirely agree with him, and AV had to cut off the quote of the definition to make it appear that Strong did.
Fine. Please do not mention the Bible to me again or defer to religion in any way. You are confusing your arguments; bouncing between a purely naturalistc belief and attacking my interpretation of a Bible you don't believe in. There's no sense in using Biblical arguments with a person that doesn't believe in God. You can't separate the miracles of God from God. If you don't believe in miracles, then the world is your god.
No, it did not, and again you're confusing your own argument. Aesop told a fable. Jesus taught using parables. Whether His parables were true only He knows. What matters to us was the meaning behind them, not whether they were based on actual events.
As long as I claim it is false, I am not going to claim it could be true.So evolution could be true and you would still claim that it is false.
But Strong didn't entirely agree with him, and AV had to cut off the quote of the definition to make it appear that Strong did.
As long as I claim it is false, I am not going to claim it could be true.
I would think that if you knew it was wrong you wouldn't believe in it, and if you did believe in it you would be convinced it was right. Who believes in that which they know is wrong?You don't have to believe in a religious text to know that it is wrong.
The Bible makes no such false claims. It does, however, mention thermal currents, the fact that air has weight, the fact that the earth "hangs on nothing," that east and west can never meet but north and south can and many other things it took scientists centuries to learn.If the Bible states that the Sun moves about the Earth, then the Bible is wrong no matter if you believe in it or not.
Perhaps you should update your icon. It reads that you are an agnostic.Also, as an atheist I have no gods that I believe in. It comes with being an atheist.
But Strong didn't entirely agree with him, and AV had to cut off the quote of the definition to make it appear that Strong did.
I would think that if you knew it was wrong you wouldn't believe in it, and if you did believe in it you would be convinced it was right. Who believes in that which they know is wrong?
The Bible makes no such false claims.
It does, however, mention thermal currents, the fact that air has weight, the fact that the earth "hangs on nothing," that east and west can never meet but north and south can and many other things it took scientists centuries to learn.
Perhaps you should update your icon. It reads that you are an agnostic.
The Bible makes no such false claims. It does, however, mention thermal currents, the fact that air has weight, the fact that the earth "hangs on nothing," that east and west can never meet but north and south can and many other things it took scientists centuries to learn.
2nd Timothy 4:
"For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.
How true that is. Paul predicted the arrival of evoutionists!!
Ask me where the water went.I suppose we should let AV enjoy feeling like he has found someone to reinforce his position. (After all, how pathetic must it be to have to go back more than a century in hopes of finding somebody who might possibly agree with him?? Considering that AV spends his life coming up with strange ideas that others shun, it has to be a lonely feeling. I mean....this is the guy who insists that Noah got the pitch for waterproofing the ark in New Jersey! And he thinks Adam and Eve spoke Jacobean English. So if he can find an imaginary friend that applauds his Biblical exegesis, I suppose we should just let him imagine and enjoy the accolades!)
2nd Timothy 4:
"For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.
How true that is. Paul predicted the arrival of evoutionists!!
Sounds like creationists to me. Creationists are the ones running away from the scientific evidence towards their own myths.
Geocentrism is not a part of Biblical teaching.So how do you determine if a claim is true or false? If I said that the Sun moved about the Earth, what would you do to convince me otherwise? Would you cite evidence?
I'm not Catholic. To me, a Cardinal is a bird. Jesus did not speak those words, nor is it written even in the earliest of books. That's like me quoting the words of the Rolling Stones and pretending it was written in the Gospels. How very dishonest of you.But to want to affirm that the sun really is fixed in the center of the heavens and only revolves around itself (i. e., turns upon its axis ) without traveling from east to west, and that the earth is situated in the third sphere and revolves with great speed around the sun, is a very dangerous thing, not only by irritating all the philosophers and scholastic theologians, but also by injuring our holy faith and rendering the Holy Scriptures false."--Cardinal Bellarmine, 1615
Nice flame. However, I've made no such assertions about cosmology, so I will take your petty, childish insult in keeping with the petty, childish way you worship the rocks and deny the one who created them.He sounds a lot like you.
Of course, Jesus later states that He is that rock. By the way. You DO know that foundations are not always physical, right?The Bible also says that the Earth sits on foundations and does not move.
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