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Why do you consider yourself "Conservative"?

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What sort of beliefs or morals do you hold to that make you conservative?
I tend to be a funny conservative Christian - as in, I dress more conservatively, I'm homeschooling my children, waited to have sex 'till marriage etc.
But I'm a bit of a hippie at heart, so I am all about barefoot in the grass, play the djembe drum and love me some big gathered skirts...

So not really traditional pre se, but I would say conservative.

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What sort of beliefs or morals do you hold to that make you conservative?
I tend to be a funny conservative Christian - as in, I dress more conservatively, I'm homeschooling my children, waited to have sex 'till marriage etc.
But I'm a bit of a hippie at heart, so I am all about barefoot in the grass, play the djembe drum and love me some big gathered skirts...

So not really traditional pre se, but I would say conservative.

Peace,
- Niffer

I started being mentored by an ultra-conservative pastor. I have come to know the liberty that is in Christ, thru this conservative teaching. She teaches that the dangers of being too broadminded leads to the modern day Christian liberalism we see all around us. Thru that teaching I left the AG church I had been attending because of the false doctrine being promoted. That put me to "house churching" as a way of avoiding false doctrine; the thought being that the chances of finding pure doctrine in a local church are negligible.

A last example is that of following 2 John 8-11, which is: 8 Watch out that you do not lose what you have worked for, but that you may be rewarded fully. 9 Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. 10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or welcome him. 11 Anyone who welcomes him shares in his wicked work.2 John 1:8-11. New International Version 1984.

This simply means that one doesn't interact personally with "professing-Christians" who don't adhere to pure doctrine, the doctrine of Christ, as referred to in KJV. Restated, it means you shun false doctrine aggressively.

Formerly, I had been walking down the 'wide road leading to destruction'. I now appreciate the New Covenant, its many promises and I now see the empowerment and privilege contained therein.
 
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Just that I am orthodox. I hold to the historic Five Fundamentals (though I don't consider myself a fundamentalist otherwise), and the historic Christian creeds. But if I'm conservative, it's in theology much more than in lifestyle, culture or politics.To the extent that politics may figure in, I am of the right, but it's the libertarian right, not the Christian right. And I'm theologically conservative in an Anglican kind of way, like C.S. Lewis and N.T. Wright, not in an American Evangelical way.
 
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"Conservative" means different things to different people. My meaning is pretty simple. I believe the entire Word of God is infallible, and that Jesus is the only way to God, and that a Christian should try his/her level best to apply the truth of the Bible as best they can in life, straightforward and set-apart, with what I feel to be reasonable standards in my lifestyle without being what might be called "legalistic". However, many who have had a chance to read some of my posts over time here on CF would have varying opinions as to whether they would think I was "conservative" or not. I feel I am, where it counts, and that was explained above.

I'll list some other instances that may (or may not) make me conservative, as a whole. And from here, you can decide for yourself. Disagree, if you must, but please do so respectfully, as a sister in Christ with a different (as opposed to inferior) perspective. I'll try to be brief, and you can feel free to read some of my other posts for more details (or as far as my page will bring you, anyway.

Okay, here goes:

I hold the Young Earth Creation point of view.

I am not a KJV-Onlyist, and while I do believe there are some off-the-wall translations and paraphrases to shy away from, there are some that might be fine, if anything, to use as a commentary. I was given a NKJV from a pastor as a graduation present many years ago, and got me hooked, ever since.

I believe it is perfectly modest and feminine for women to wear pants, as long as they are not skin-tight or inappropriate. When I do wear skirts, they are below the knee, and I prefer shorts either a little above the knee, or capri-cut. Standard bathing suits are out of the question, whatsoever. And I try to wear tops that do not reveal cleavage.

I do not think there is anything wrong with using contemporary and jazzy music styles to minister; Personally, I am versatile in my tastes in music, and I don't think God sees anything wrong with that. I do draw the line at metal, though. Petra is about as edgy as I'll get, and I have a preference for their classic stuff.

When it comes to politics, I am nonpartisan. I do not think there is a "Christian" party, as there are bad I ideas from both main sides that do not really line up with what the Bible says. But there are good ideas on both sides, as well, but my views are such a mixed bag that it is hard to connect with any one party. Politicians are all fallible and flawed human beings (like we all are), even the best of them, and I believe we ought to be praying for them, even ones we didn't vote for. They all deserve it.

Playing cards and dice are not wrong if they are not used for ungodly purposes. There is nothing wrong with Yahtzee, Monopoly, Crazy Eight, or Go Fish.

I do not drink nor smoke at all (personal choice).

TV and movies are not wrong as long as good judgment is practiced and we know how to guard our viewing choices. There are some programming that is absolutely, without a doubt, trashy and has no business being viewed by Christians. Other programs are a matter of dispute, and all of that depends on the way you look at things, containing elements at times that we as Christians won't always agree with, even in some of the most innocent shows.

And I also believe that Christians will have different convictions on a variety of matters, according to Romans 14, and we are to respect one another despite those differing convictions; what might be wrong to one person might not be wrong to another (when it comes to "doubtful things" as mentioned in verse 1), and there will come a time when anything we Christians disagreed about here on earth will no longer matter, and that's when we're in the very presence of Jesus Himself.


Well, there were the examples. Not wanting to debate; these are just my honest feelings.
 
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What sort of beliefs or morals do you hold to that make you conservative?
I tend to be a funny conservative Christian - as in, I dress more conservatively, I'm homeschooling my children, waited to have sex 'till marriage etc.
But I'm a bit of a hippie at heart, so I am all about barefoot in the grass, play the djembe drum and love me some big gathered skirts...

So not really traditional pre se, but I would say conservative.

Peace,
- Niffer

I guess, in a nutshell, it's what works for me and my family. I come from a hippy, ecclectic background, and my wife and I are somewhat Christian "greenies," but not Vegan, (sorry, animals, you're tasty.) :) But we find the "borders" of conservatism comforting. We recognize everyone sets their own borders, and everyone is entitled to opinions, (of course, mine being right.) :) I call conservative values, "safe." I like that.
 
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And I'm theologically conservative in an Anglican kind of way, like C.S. Lewis and N.T. Wright, not in an American Evangelical way.

Hi Izdaari! Can you help me understand this? :wave: (I'm asking in an inquisitive way - not at all an argumentative one)
 
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Hi Izdaari! Can you help me understand this? :wave: (I'm asking in an inquisitive way - not at all an argumentative one)
I appreciate the spirit in which you ask, and I'd like to help you with it, but it's not so easy to define. The differences are more in tone and approach rather than in doctrine. May I ask to what degree you're familiar with Lewis and Wright?

Just some off the top of my head personal observations:

American conservative evangelicalism is deeply rooted in American culture, specifically the subcultures of Yankee Puritanism and Southern Redneckism. Those are not, IMHO, a very good basis for building a sound and biblical Christianity, at least not when we lack a perspective outside of them. It tends to make us culturally insular, with difficulty in differentiating what is in fact biblical from what is merely part of the Christian subculture we grew up with.

Anglican conservatives, generally speaking, are much less focused on patriotism, social and moral issues, and politics in general, which is not to say they're unpatriotic, or unconcerned with public morality or good citizenship... but those aren't the major priorities for them to the extent, sometimes an unhealthy and unwise extent (IMHO) that they often are in American evangelicalism.
 
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I appreciate the spirit in which you ask, and I'd like to help you with it, but it's not so easy to define. The differences are more in tone and approach rather than in doctrine. May I ask to what degree you're familiar with Lewis and Wright?

Just some off the top of my head personal observations:

American conservative evangelicalism is deeply rooted in American culture, specifically the subcultures of Yankee Puritanism and Southern Redneckism. Those are not, IMHO, a very good basis for building a sound and biblical Christianity, at least not when we lack a perspective outside of them. It tends to make us culturally insular, with difficulty in differentiating what is in fact biblical from what is merely part of the Christian subculture we grew up with.

Anglican conservatives, generally speaking, are much less focused on patriotism, social and moral issues, and politics in general, which is not to say they're unpatriotic, or unconcerned with public morality or good citizenship... but those aren't the major priorities for them to the extent, sometimes an unhealthy and unwise extent (IMHO) that they often are in American evangelicalism.

I guess the only exception I take with this, (being born in the Puritanical North from parents who were raised in the Redneck South,) many of these "cultural" values were learned from our forefathers who came from England and were part of the churches that came here from the Old country.

It's not just Redneck preference, but principles that have been embedded into our fiber from our Christian heritage. This fiber is what causes us to lean toward the "safer" choices instead of chancing on the "risky." We think about our neighbors, (Remember the words of Christ, "Love thy neighbor. . . ?") and what they would think about our choices, lifestyles, activities, etc.

If Bishop J.C. Ryle is (still) considered a godly man of the faith, I'd see him as a conservative that us Southern Redneck type would really appreciate. His sermons strike at the very heart of this issue, a Christian life that has a head full of knowledge, a mind full of liberty, and life full of compromise.

We chose the safe road.
 
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A Conservative Christian generally believes:
(1) The Holy Scriptures, comprised of Old and New Testaments, are fully and verbally inspired by God and are therefore infallible in the original writings and completely trustworthy in all areas in which they speak. Their central salvation message and essential teachings are clear and accessible to all who follow the standard and self-evident rules of literary interpretation. They are therefore the supreme, unmediated, and final authority of faith and practice for every believer.
(2) There is only one eternal, almighty and perfect God. Within the Being of this one true God exist three eternally distinct and coequal Persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. These three Persons are the one true God.
(3) Jesus Christ is the eternal Son of God, the Second Person of the Trinity, who took upon Himself human flesh through the miraculous conception by the Holy Spirit in the womb of the Virgin Mary. He who is true God became true man, uniting two natures in one person forever. Christ lived a perfect, sinless life, died on the cross as an atoning sacrifice for our sins, rose bodily from the dead, and ascended into Heaven where He now serves as our High Priest, our only Mediator. He will return bodily and visibly to the earth as King of kings and will judge every human being who has ever lived.
(4) The Holy Spirit is the eternal Third Person of the Triune God, the Regenerator and Sanctifier of the redeemed, the Bestower of spiritual fruit and gifts, and the abiding Advocate who empowers believers for godly living and service.
(5) In Adam human beings were created in the image of God (i.e., they share in a finite way the communicable attributes of God, including personality, spirituality, rationality, and morality). Through the fall of Adam that image of God in humanity has been defiled, although not eradicated. Every human being is radically corrupt and estranged from God. Human beings are condemned by God because of their descent into sin, both through their relationship to Adam and through individual choice. The desperate need of humanity is forgiveness of sins and consequent restoration of fellowship with God; yet humans remain totally unable to atone for and restore themselves.
(6) Jesus' death on the cross provided a penal substitutionary atonement for the sins of humanity. In salvation we are rescued from God's wrath by His unmerited grace alone, through faith alone, on account of Christ alone.
(7) Those who have received the free gift of salvation will be raised from the dead or raptured (snatched up from their earthly lives) to meet Christ at His Second Coming, and their bodies will be transformed like unto His glorious, immortal body. They will live forever in the fellowship and Kingdom of God in a new heaven and a new earth. Eternal, conscious punishment apart from the fellowship and Kingdom of God (hell) is the ultimate destiny of unredeemed humanity, Satan, and his entire angelic host.
(8) The Christian church, which is the body and bride of Christ, is composed of all persons who through saving faith in Jesus Christ have been regenerated by the Holy Spirit. Corporately and individually, its members strive to worship, serve, and glorify God through prayer and praise, diligent study and application of the Scriptures, evangelism, sanctified living, good works, and observance of the rites of baptism and the Lord's Supper. The ultimate mission of the church is the discipleship of all nations - not only the saving of souls (which is primary) but also the bringing of the gospel to bear on every aspect of life and thought - until the Lord returns.

Religious conservatives principally seek to apply the teachings of particular religions to politics, sometimes by merely proclaiming the value of those teachings, at other times by having those teachings influence laws.[49]

General Conservatism:
During the 19th and early 20th centuries, according to political economist Barry Clark, conservatism in the United States existed only in the American South, where "the plantation system and slavery were ideally suited for an ideology that emphasized the importance of hierarchal community." However, after World War I and the Great Depression "skeptics toward reason and science" revitalized conservatism, and in the 1950s a conservative movement arose in the United States, led by William F. Buckley, Jr.. Its first major success was the election of Ronald Reagan, president from 1981 to 1989. Modern American conservatives are a powerful political force, formed out of "their disgust with the counterculture of the 1960s, their dissatisfaction with the conciliatory nature of U.S. foreign policy, and their disillusionment with the welfare state as a solution to poverty and crime."[97] Since 1980, the Republican Party has been the leading conservative party in the United States. Organizations in the US committed to promoting conservative ideology include the American Conservative Union, Eagle Forum, Heritage Foundation, Citizens United, and the Hoover Institution. US-based media outlets that are conservative include Human Events, National Review, The American Conservative, Policy Review, Fox News, and The Weekly Standard.
 
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What sort of beliefs or morals do you hold to that make you conservative?
I tend to be a funny conservative Christian - as in, I dress more conservatively, I'm homeschooling my children, waited to have sex 'till marriage etc.
But I'm a bit of a hippie at heart, so I am all about barefoot in the grass, play the djembe drum and love me some big gathered skirts...

So not really traditional pre se, but I would say conservative.

Peace,
- Niffer

I understand your thoughts and feelings.
"But I'm a bit of a hippie at heart, so I am all about barefoot in the grass..."

I'm not sure how to describe myself. I'm just myself. :D I'm relieved, someone else can understand. :)
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Well, I guess I consider myself to be conservative partly because I agree with the Catholic Church on everything ranging from faith to morals. Plus there is the fact that I am 100% pro-life and I am totally against "gay marriage" and even civil unions for gays. I am also against laws allowing homosexual couples to adopt children so I have many of the same views as other conservatives. Now, some conservatives are for the death penalty but this is one issue where I differ from other conservatives. I am against the death penalty in the vast majority of cases. The only way I can see the death penalty as being justified is if it is absolutely the only way possible of keeping society safe from a violent criminal. I do not believe in retributive justice or vengeance.

Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God; for it is written, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord." No, "if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals upon his head." Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.
(Romans 12:19-21 RSV)
 
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my being a conservative: I knew nothing about politics until Bush became Pres. and 9/11 happened, I didn't know anything about sides, I just thought everybody was pro-america. I was wrong. My dad is a hugely into politics so everything I know comes from him. But I've really gotten into it in the last few years.

my foundation comes from my faith and I guess u could say I'm a values voter. There was a time when I cared about nothing else but wether the canidate was prolife or not. Now I see the economy in a mess, Oman making it worse and have xpanded. But I would never ever forget the values core. Some repubs today do and that scares me. they will never win if they throw those issues aside, which is why im for rick santorum
 
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I consider myself to be morally conservative and generally politically conservative. For being morally conservative, I hold God's Word as the "rulebook" for what is difference between right and wrong. Liberals tend to make up whatever rules suit their lifestyles.

As for being politically conservative, I lean more towards smaller government and individual responsibility. However, I'm not for pure cut-throat capitalism because there are people who generally need temporary assistance (and sometimes long term assistance for the disabled and orphaned).
 
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I consider myself to be morally conservative and generally politically conservative. For being morally conservative, I hold God's Word as the "rulebook" for what is difference between right and wrong. Liberals tend to make up whatever rules suit their lifestyles.

As for being politically conservative, I lean more towards smaller government and individual responsibility. However, I'm not for pure cut-throat capitalism because there are people who generally need temporary assistance (and sometimes long term assistance for the disabled and orphaned).
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I consider myself conservative insofar as I refuse to waiver from what I believe to be the historic Christian faith. Politically I'm a very staunch live-and-let-live Libertarian, and I don't side with the political Right (nor with the Left).
 
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The essence of conservatISM is to advocate for the sake of that which is older, simply because it is older. While I am conservative, conservatism is not my guiding philosophy.

I consider myself theologically conservative in several senses:

  1. With respect to creeds and confessions. I reject the "relationship not a religion" fad, not only because it has an unscriptural definition of religion, but because it is the mark of a mature Christian to take into consideration the reasons that our forerunners gave for the beliefs and practices that they held, rather than simply rejecting them out of hand (or swallowing them uncritically, for that matter). Paul said to follow him even as he followed Christ, but these sectaries act as though following any minister would be a sin.
  2. With respect to Presbyterianism. In almost every respect, I adhere myself to the aims and principles of Presbyterianism of the First and Second Reformations in Scotland. I don't do this because I think John Knox or Samuel Rutherford or George Gillespie were categorically free from error, or because what is old in Presbyterian somehow defines Presbyterianism (although it should); but because I believe the general aims and principles of Presbyterianism were fundamentally grounded in Scripture.
  3. With respect to the broader beliefs of all Christians. I am conservative in that I hold to the Five Fundamentals.
 
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The essence of conservatISM is to advocate for the sake of that which is older, simply because it is older. While I am conservative, conservatism is not my guiding philosophy.

I consider myself theologically conservative in several senses:

  1. With respect to creeds and confessions. I reject the "relationship not a religion" fad, not only because it has an unscriptural definition of religion, but because it is the mark of a mature Christian to take into consideration the reasons that our forerunners gave for the beliefs and practices that they held, rather than simply rejecting them out of hand (or swallowing them uncritically, for that matter). Paul said to follow him even as he followed Christ, but these sectaries act as though following any minister would be a sin.
  2. With respect to Presbyterianism. In almost every respect, I adhere myself to the aims and principles of Presbyterianism of the First and Second Reformations in Scotland. I don't do this because I think John Knox or Samuel Rutherford or George Gillespie were categorically free from error, or because what is old in Presbyterian somehow defines Presbyterianism (although it should); but because I believe the general aims and principles of Presbyterianism were fundamentally grounded in Scripture.
  3. With respect to the broader beliefs of all Christians. I am conservative in that I hold to the Five Fundamentals.
I see a lot of references to mere men in that post. Where's Jesus?
 
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Because I hold to the values of the Bible. Conservative necessarily doesn't mean strict, although many people think it may seem a little strict, but that holding to the values of the Bible is the way to go. One of the reasons is because the Bible is the only way that the Holy Spirit works through us. I'm not a sort that goes around telling people who are not conservative that they will go to hell but I hold my values and if someone asked me why I would do my best to convince them by the authority of the Word of God in what I believe.

Simply put, conservative means sticking close to the Word of God. Word conservative has a root in conserve, or, preserve. I know you didn't ask for this but this is basically why I am a conservative. Jesus all the way. We are aliens in this world anyway.
 
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Because I hold to the values of the Bible. Conservative necessarily doesn't mean strict, although to many people it may seem a little strict, but that holding to the values of the Bible is the way to go. One of the reasons is because the Bible is the only way that the Holy Spirit works through us. I'm not a sort that goes around telling people who are not conservative that they will go to hell but I hold my values and if someone asked me why I would do my best to convince them by the authority of the Word of God in what I believe.

Simply put, conservative means sticking close to the Word of God. Word conservative has a root in conserve, or, preserve. I know you didn't ask for this but this is basically why I am a conservative. Jesus all the way. We are aliens in this world anyway.

Very well said. :) Amen to the above. :)
 
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