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Genesis 32:
Centuries later, Judges 13:
Was J1 and M1 the same being?
I think so. Both Jacob and Manoah interacted with an extraordinary being. Both thought they had seen God. Both wanted to know his name. J1=M1.
What is his name?
Pr 30:
Jacob met a special man, J1.24 Jacob was left all alone, and there a man wrestled with him until daybreak.
J1 didn't give his name.29 Jacob said, "Please tell me your name." But he replied, "Why do you ask my name?" Then he blessed him there.
Jacob believed that J1 was God.30 So Jacob named the place Peniel, saying, “Indeed, I have seen God face to face, and yet my life was spared.”
Centuries later, Judges 13:
Manoah met a special man, M1. M1 was the angel of the Lord.11 Manoah got up and followed his wife. When he came to the man, he asked, “Are you the man who spoke to my wife?”
“I am,” he said.
M1 didn't give his name.17 Manoah inquired of the angel of the Lord, “What is your name, so that we may honor you when your word comes true?”18 He replied, "Why do you ask my name? It is beyond understanding."
Manoah thought he saw God.22 “We are going to die,” he said to his wife, “for we have seen God!”
Was J1 and M1 the same being?
I think so. Both Jacob and Manoah interacted with an extraordinary being. Both thought they had seen God. Both wanted to know his name. J1=M1.
What is his name?
Pr 30:
Jesus (J 3:13).4 Who has ascended to heaven and come down?
Jesus (Mk 4:39).Who has gathered the wind in his fists?
YHWH/Jesus (Jb 38:9).Who has wrapped up the waters in a garment?
YHWH/Jesus (J 1:3).Who has established all the ends of the earth?
YHWHWhat is his name,
Jesus.and what is his son’s name?
Both J1 and M1 pointed to Jesus' pre-incarnate existence.Surely you know!