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Why do some christians think that morals come from god?
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<blockquote data-quote="Ariston" data-source="post: 66144922" data-attributes="member: 341802"><p>@Frank Zappa</p><p></p><p>Abion asked,</p><p></p><p>"Are the practices of raping little girls, slavery, and antisemitism definitely "wrong" no matter what any human being may think, living or dead, past or present?"</p><p></p><p>to which you replied,</p><p></p><p>"I <em>personally think so</em>, but I derive my stance on these things on the world and society around me. Are you saying the Bible is immoral?" (italics added)</p><p></p><p>So you seem to be saying that it is actually wrong <em>and</em> that its a matter of societal opinion. Maybe we should broaden the discussion to include our views on square circles and married bachelors. Its apparently unintelligible to try and have it both ways but I can understand the dilemma. It appears that since that post, you are trying to emphasize that morality is relative in which case you would reject that, "the practices of raping little girls, slavery, and antisemitism definitely "wrong" no matter what any human being may think, living or dead, past or present..." which is to deflect from your earlier assertion that, "I personally think so" - that is to say, that you claimed to agree with the statement that some things are wrong regardless of time and place. That was the nonsense I was responding to. </p><p></p><p>Then after, I responded directly to your position as you expressed it, you wrote rather angrily,</p><p></p><p>"Obviously reading comprehension is not your forte. Please read what I actually posted instead of fellating your own pseudo-intellectual ego by putting words in my mouth."</p><p></p><p>Forgive me for taking you seriously. Reading comprehension is apparently not the difficulty since my previous post was directly addressing your above noted incoherent quotations. Perhaps its memory retention that is not your forte or maybe you could just try making sense. Clearly I did not put any words in your mouth since I quoted you! Perhaps the dodging concerning objective morality, the affirming of whatever is presently convenient to your case, reveals that tactics are merely a cloak for hiding under a mere disinclination to think the present issue through to a conclusion. Perhaps you could at least attempt to respond to the "Atheistic problem of Ethics" that I put forth instead of just complain that you don't like that I disclosed your fallacious reasoning. I really do not want to go back and forth on this so I will leave it at that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ariston, post: 66144922, member: 341802"] @Frank Zappa Abion asked, "Are the practices of raping little girls, slavery, and antisemitism definitely "wrong" no matter what any human being may think, living or dead, past or present?" to which you replied, "I [I]personally think so[/I], but I derive my stance on these things on the world and society around me. Are you saying the Bible is immoral?" (italics added) So you seem to be saying that it is actually wrong [I]and[/I] that its a matter of societal opinion. Maybe we should broaden the discussion to include our views on square circles and married bachelors. Its apparently unintelligible to try and have it both ways but I can understand the dilemma. It appears that since that post, you are trying to emphasize that morality is relative in which case you would reject that, "the practices of raping little girls, slavery, and antisemitism definitely "wrong" no matter what any human being may think, living or dead, past or present..." which is to deflect from your earlier assertion that, "I personally think so" - that is to say, that you claimed to agree with the statement that some things are wrong regardless of time and place. That was the nonsense I was responding to. Then after, I responded directly to your position as you expressed it, you wrote rather angrily, "Obviously reading comprehension is not your forte. Please read what I actually posted instead of fellating your own pseudo-intellectual ego by putting words in my mouth." Forgive me for taking you seriously. Reading comprehension is apparently not the difficulty since my previous post was directly addressing your above noted incoherent quotations. Perhaps its memory retention that is not your forte or maybe you could just try making sense. Clearly I did not put any words in your mouth since I quoted you! Perhaps the dodging concerning objective morality, the affirming of whatever is presently convenient to your case, reveals that tactics are merely a cloak for hiding under a mere disinclination to think the present issue through to a conclusion. Perhaps you could at least attempt to respond to the "Atheistic problem of Ethics" that I put forth instead of just complain that you don't like that I disclosed your fallacious reasoning. I really do not want to go back and forth on this so I will leave it at that. [/QUOTE]
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