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Why do some christians think that morals come from god?
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<blockquote data-quote="Joshua260" data-source="post: 66141353" data-attributes="member: 318224"><p>As I said, if you want to talk about OT issues of this sort (good questions I think, but in this thread we're talking about whether or not there are objective moral values and duties), I would prefer you start a separate thread. </p><p></p><p>So getting back to the subject, you seem to have agreed with me that "the practices of raping little girls, slavery, and antisemitism are <em><strong>definitely </strong></em>"wrong" <em><strong>no matter what any human being may think, </strong></em>living or dead, past or present", but then you add that you derive your stance from "the world and society around me". This sounds to me like you contradicted yourself. On one hand, you claim that these things are <em><strong>definitely </strong></em>wrong no matter what anybody <em><strong>thinks</strong></em>, and then on the other hand you say that you only <em><strong>think </strong></em>they are wrong because that's what the society around you <em><strong>thinks</strong></em>. Did you miss the phrases "definitely" and "no matter what any human being may think"? </p><p></p><p>I'm trying to understand you...I guess maybe you lack the convictions that these acts are really wrong, which seems to me to be quite obvious that they <em>are </em>wrong. I really do not mean to be offensive to you here. I think most everyone would declare that raping little girls has always been and will ever be wrong. So, I'm just trying to understand you and certainly do not mean to offend. So for me, if I saw a little girl getting raped, I would not hesitate to declare that she was being wronged, and I wouldn't have to take a poll from the society around me. Would you have to depend on a societal poll to tell you that it was wrong for the little girl to be raped? Is your conviction that this is a moral wrong that questionable?</p><p></p><p>I really don't mean to be offensive to you, so if you don't want to respond, that's ok. Have a good nite.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Joshua260, post: 66141353, member: 318224"] As I said, if you want to talk about OT issues of this sort (good questions I think, but in this thread we're talking about whether or not there are objective moral values and duties), I would prefer you start a separate thread. So getting back to the subject, you seem to have agreed with me that "the practices of raping little girls, slavery, and antisemitism are [I][B]definitely [/B][/I]"wrong" [I][B]no matter what any human being may think, [/B][/I]living or dead, past or present", but then you add that you derive your stance from "the world and society around me". This sounds to me like you contradicted yourself. On one hand, you claim that these things are [I][B]definitely [/B][/I]wrong no matter what anybody [I][B]thinks[/B][/I], and then on the other hand you say that you only [I][B]think [/B][/I]they are wrong because that's what the society around you [I][B]thinks[/B][/I]. Did you miss the phrases "definitely" and "no matter what any human being may think"? I'm trying to understand you...I guess maybe you lack the convictions that these acts are really wrong, which seems to me to be quite obvious that they [I]are [/I]wrong. I really do not mean to be offensive to you here. I think most everyone would declare that raping little girls has always been and will ever be wrong. So, I'm just trying to understand you and certainly do not mean to offend. So for me, if I saw a little girl getting raped, I would not hesitate to declare that she was being wronged, and I wouldn't have to take a poll from the society around me. Would you have to depend on a societal poll to tell you that it was wrong for the little girl to be raped? Is your conviction that this is a moral wrong that questionable? I really don't mean to be offensive to you, so if you don't want to respond, that's ok. Have a good nite. [/QUOTE]
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