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Why do people hate easy believism?

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Danigt22

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My answer was yes, but it seems you didnt notice. No go with the sting of death to someone else.
 
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Typical, no actual answer to the questions, and that speaks volumes.
 
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Typical, no actual answer to the questions, and that speaks volumes.

Cant you people read context with word of God.

1)Can you get to heaven by not being/doing good? Yes, in fact no one is good or doing good only God does.

2)Also, must we have works to prove our faith, or is just claiming we have faith all we need in order to get to heaven? It is faith alone.
 
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My answer was yes, but it seems you didnt notice. No go with the sting of death to someone else.
No, you did not state "yes" but thank you for the answer.

First you have accused me of throwing red herrings, then of having "ill intent", now you are accusing me of "going with the sting of death" to people, all because I asked you one simple question, "are you under the law of Christ?"

Well to all that I must say, it does not demonstrate the charity that we would typically expect from a Christian.

Have a nice day.
 
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You seem proud of the fact you are not proud though?

I believed in easy believism. I believed I was saved. Now I don't, so where do I stand?
 
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If I answer you with a direct yes, Im a liar since I sin even at my best. If I say a direct no, that means Im not under grace. This is the type of question only comes from Satan and his desire to corrupt the gospel.
 
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What purpose does it has doubting if someone is following the spirit.
I did not write anything about you following or not following the Spirit, nor do I have any particular doubts or or other assumptions concerning that matter.

Are you justify by faith or by the law?
I am justified by faith, and gratuitously.

See how easy that is, to answer a question, without accusing someone of throwing a red-herring, having ill-intent, and so forth?

You should try it sometime.
 
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So if I'm prideful then what can I boast about? Prideful people always have something to boast about. Boasting is the source of pride.
You seem to be boasting about how humble you are to accept the grace of God and comparing yourself to others who haven't. Your conclusion is that they must be prideful whereas you are humble because you can accept God's grace.
 
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Then I guess Im sorry for being at the defensive
 
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You seem to be boasting about how humble you are to accept the grace of God and comparing yourself to others who haven't. Your conclusion is that they must be prideful whereas you are humble because you can accept God's grace.
Well, I don't think we know that that is what motivates him. It is possible, but perhaps the desire to make that comparison and denounce others as prideful was for some other reason.
 
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You seem to be boasting about how humble you are to accept the grace of God and comparing yourself to others who haven't. Your conclusion is that they must be prideful whereas you are humble because you can accept God's grace.

I know that I'm just as much of a sinner as anyone else. I'm not saying I'm any better than anyone else. I'm just saying that I wasn't trying to work for salvation or earn it by myself, just received it as a free gift.

The only reason I can imagine why someone would not want to have a free gift is the mindset that says, "I'm such a good and hard-working person that I'm going to earn that gift by myself. You're not just going to give it to me freely." That would be a prideful mindset. So that's why I think pride is the reason why someone would not want a free gift or dislike the idea of getting a free gift.

If salvation is easy and it's totally free, wouldn't that just be the greatest news ever? Why would you dislike that?
 
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The reasons I would give are that it is humbling to not sin and to live for God. It isn't all about us. Obviously as people we will be prone to pride but I don't think that's why most people disagree with the idea of easy believism. A lot of people will feel proud of themselves for things they accomplish but it's not unfathomable to say that lots of people also genuinely have a desire to please God.
 
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believing in Jesus

There is a lot to being a believer .... a lot.

1 Peter 2:21 “For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also SUFFERED for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps.”

One just stating "I believe Jesus exists" is not a believer.

Walking with Jesus ...

What Does the Bible Say About Walking With Jesus?
 
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Sure. But here's a good point to understand. It would be wrong to be humble out of your own free will. The Bible talks about voluntary humility and that's a bad thing. Basically what it means is being humble because you just want to be humble, or to prove to other people how humble you are. One example of voluntary humility would be a Buddhist monk who tortures himself and fasts for three months in a monastery. In Buddhism that is considered very humble and spiritual, but in reality God never told him to sit in a monastery and torture himself. So we should be humble in a way that God wants, not the way we want.

"Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind," - Colossians 2:18
 
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If you fall and realize you can't be trusted, and feel you're undone and Satan whispers you can't be forgiven, and you discover you were wrong and the Lord shows mercy - hold on, you're in for the best ride of your life!!

I can be trusted but only those of God trust me. It is not OK to think evil of me, it shows only you are not of God, and you add new sins, to make your salvation more hard.
 
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I'm guilty of that but I ask God to help me seek to please him first and foremost. I just don't believe in that view of the gospel anymore. It's not merciful and I also just don't think it's true.
 
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