You beat me to, it it is a tit for tat response to Christians that feel like they have the high moral ground to dictate to society how to behave.
I was actually raised Baptist and at about 8 years old started to question the logic of God, by the age of 10 came to the conclusion that the more I was taught the more it was exactly like the fairy tales told to me as a child. One day I told the priest/pastor that God was an illogical idea and only dumb people believed it and was promptly kicked out of the church.
Shouldn't you at least do some reading of western history before making an uneducated, boorish statement like this?
Tell me. What is it going to be? Did Christians commit atrocities in the name of religion during the crusades or didn't they? Or did they fight amongst themselves during the crusades? Or did they join together and ruthlessly kill Muslims just to acquire Jerusalem? Or did they lend support to the Byzantine empire when Emperor Alexander was being overrun by Turks?
Going to church and reading the bible does not make you a Christian, much in the same way that standing in a garage does not make you a car.
Because non-Christians are the only people who actually bother reading the Bible. Christians have priests who read the Bible for them and spoon-feed them select passages.
I was actually raised Baptist and at about 8 years old started to question the logic of God, by the age of 10 came to the conclusion that the more I was taught the more it was exactly like the fairy tales told to me as a child. One day I told the priest/pastor that God was an illogical idea and only dumb people believed it and was promptly kicked out of the church.
And read about how the Puritans showed Christian brotherhood to the Quakers in colonial Massachusetts. A colony you remember, that was founded because the Pilgrim sect faced disfavor, if not outright persecution by the Church of England.
I was raised Christian. I de-converted because although everyone around me claimed to be Christian I could not find Christ in their hearts, words, or actions.
Going to church and reading the bible does not make you a Christian, much in the same way that standing in a garage does not make you a car.
Why do non and anti Christians tell Christians how to be Christian?
When Christians talk about how they are supposed to be a witness for Christ so that others may be led to him and yet the words and actions of Christians make Christianity unbecoming, someone has to say something.What is the basis for justifying this?
It must sting when a non-christian knows the Bible better than a believer. I can't tell you how many times I've debated various passages of Scripture with Christians and they'll adamantly claim that no such verse or passage exists. When I refer them to the book and chapter they usually come back with, "okay, so it's there? You're not interpreting it correctly!" They don't even know the Bible.They even go so far as to quote the Bible often, saying how Christ Jesus dealt with issues and how and why Christians should live their lives.
Well if this isn't a case of the pot calling the kettle black.Why do non and anti Christians feel they have the perspective (and the right) to tell Christians what to do as Christians and how to be a Christian? Or, what it means to be a Christian if, you claim to be one?
No. It means you guys need to function like normal human beings like the rest of us and worry about your own lives instead of poking around in everyone else's. What's good for the goose, etc, etc.Doesn't this mean that the Bible IS clear on the issues?
At least in terms of how a Christian should be a Christian?
You frequently tell atheists what they believe, and even though people try to point out that you're wrong, you never listen.
I was brought up in a very Christian environment, and have read the Bible several times. I also like to read books on theology. So I think I have a very good idea of what Christianity says, and what Christians are expected to believe.
I'm only referring here to what one Christian group has done to other Christian groups. Do you doubt that there was violent conflict between Catholics and Prostestants?
I'll refer you to A World Lit Only By Fire. William Manchester's excellent history of medieval Europe through to the Renaissance.
He documents the brutality that occurred on each side as a result of the Reformation.
A fundamental cause of the 30 Year's War was Protestant/Catholic conflict.
And before the Crusades in the Holy Land . . .
. . . was the Albigensian Crusade in the 13th century, where the Roman church tried to stamp out the French Cathars, a sect which it considered heretical.
Maybe a million people were killed.
I'm sure you know what Calvin did to Michael Servetus for promoting a unitarian God.
And read about how the Puritans showed Christian brotherhood to the Quakers in colonial Massachusetts.
A colony you remember, that was founded because the Pilgrim sect faced disfavor, if not outright persecution by the Church of England.
Right here in the US, the Protestant majority widely discriminated against Roman Catholics throughout much of our history.
And whether you think Mormons are Christians or not, I don't have to post references to prove the violence they suffered from other Christians back in the day. (And gave back in kind.)
All I'm saying is that Christians of different theologies have often acted pretty beastly towards each other.
Dominant denominations have been particulary intolerant of heterodox minorities. That fact is indisputable.
So what example does that set for us non-believers?
Right. You were "raised Baptist" and yet, you don't know that Baptists don't have priests? Well, that certainly adds credibility to your story.
I put priest/pastor because I was unsure what to call him because it has been 30 years since I have been in a church.
Because many Christians are so painfully lacking in behaving in a Christlike fashion that they don't realize what a detriment they are to their witness.
When Christians talk about how they are supposed to be a witness for Christ so that others may be led to him and yet the words and actions of Christians make Christianity unbecoming, someone has to say something.
It must sting when a non-christian knows the Bible better than a believer.
I can't tell you how many times I've debated various passages of Scripture with Christians and they'll adamantly claim that no such verse or passage exists.
When I refer them to the book and chapter they usually come back with, "okay, so it's there? You're not interpreting it correctly!" They don't even know the Bible.[
Well if this isn't a case of the pot calling the kettle black.
1. Christians have a long history of dictating how others should live, to the extent of executing those engaging in practices deemed "blasphemous".
These could include anything from adultery to using science to prove the earth is spherical.
2. Modern-day Christians continue to impose their archaic views on society.
No. It means you guys need to function like normal human beings like the rest of us and worry about your own lives instead of poking around in everyone else's. What's good for the goose, etc, etc.
Acts 5:1-10.Oh really? Show me one IN the New Testament? Or, show me one in the New testament that teaches that we are to kill non and anti's? Your good at bible knowledge you say.
Acts 5:1-10.
A & S died (of fear, apparently), because they disobeyed the disciples by not sharing their goods.
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