I already showed that there were multiple languages before Babel. Your continued refusal to address this shows that it is you, not me, who is muddled.
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I already showed that there were multiple languages before Babel. Your continued refusal to address this shows that it is you, not me, who is muddled.Not sure why you got so muddled. Anyhow, to be clear before Babel there were no languages or hieroglyphics etc I assume. Just the one worldwide single language. After the tongues were divided at Babel, it makes sense that people then needed to draw pics to communicate and try to get a written language.
As for your attempted point about how India was not close to the tower, here is a pic for you.
https://mountaintwentyone.wixsite.com/home/babel
As you can see, getting around for animals or people was not so hard. Heck, some people have even speculated that some men at the time had access to ways to fly!!? Ha.
So you're saying you have no way of dating Babel? Then how can you know when it happened?They got scattered from the tower of Babel.
Now there is some question whether there were peoples in the world that were not in the area of Babel. If that were the case, their languages also would have been scattered at this same time! You see nature changes (made by God) affect us all.
There are no dating methods except radioactive decay based methods for dating that far back. The problem with those methods is that they assume nature was the same, and so they assume they can use the decay process we now see for dates. NO way..if nature changed, that means those methods are totally useless except for the recent past.
As we get near the time of the change, the dates derived from radioactive decay methods start to go insanely wildly totally wrong! So wrong, that thousands of years get into billions of years!!!
You did not sow any such silly thing. Try not to take your religious dating scheme too seriously.I already showed that there were multiple languages before Babel. Your continued refusal to address this shows that it is you, not me, who is muddled.
I have a way. The bible! Even Jewish tradition has dates that are likely close. For example they say Abraham lived at the same time as Noah for awhile after the flood. The dates for Babel are fairly well known.So you're saying you have no way of dating Babel? Then how can you know when it happened?
Do you ever think through the consequences of your claims?
Do you think physical, archaeological evidence supports the bible? If so, then the bible in turn supports the dates we get from other things like isotopes, tree rings etc from that evidence?I have a way. The bible! Even Jewish tradition has dates that are likely close. For example they say Abraham lived at the same time as Noah for awhile after the flood. The dates for Babel are fairly well known.
The religiously derived silly dates you use are simply worthless.
Now that's a bald faced lie. You have ignored and handwaved the evidence several times in this thread. You haven't once addressed it. Do not insult everyone's intelligence by pretending otherwise.You did not sow any such silly thing. Try not to take your religious dating scheme too seriously.
So you're saying you have no way of dating Babel? Then how can you know when it happened?
Nothing true could support religious false dated that rest on false premises.Do you think physical, archaeological evidence supports the bible? If so, then the bible in turn supports the dates we get from other things like isotopes, tree rings etc from that evidence?
What evidence besides religious dates do you think you or anyone else presented? Or is this just practice for false accusing and wasted posts for you?Now that's a bald faced lie. You have ignored and handwaved the evidence several times in this thread. You haven't once addressed it. Do not insult everyone's intelligence by pretending otherwise.
Your argument is completely nonsensical and ridiculous:Nothing true could support religious false dated that rest on false premises.
Your refusal to deal with the evidence is noted.What evidence besides religious dates do you think you or anyone else presented? Or is this just practice for false accusing and wasted posts for you?
The bible does not use your same state past religious dates. Try again.Your argument is completely nonsensical and ridiculous:
1. Bible says event X happened in year Y, science says event X happened in year Y = Scientific dating is RELIABLE
2. Using the same dating techniques for anything that is not in the bible = Scientific dating is UNRELIABLE
In other words you have nothing else but the same nature in the past belief based phony two bit pretend dates. Noted.Your refusal to deal with the evidence is noted.
Actually no. What I said stands - you refuse to deal with evidence. I have provided evidence that multiple languages existed before your claimed Babel event. You have:In other words you have nothing else but the same nature in the past belief based phony two bit pretend dates. Noted.
I'd forgotten how much you struggle to comprehend simple ideas.The bible does not use your same state past religious dates. Try again.
Name any of it that is not dated with same state past belief based dating? Ha. None eh?Actually no. What I said stands - you refuse to deal with evidence. I have provided evidence that multiple languages existed before your claimed Babel event.
You have:
1. Agreed with them
Oh? I missed that.2. Re-written the Babel narrative
Your confusion needed to be cleared up...do I even hear a thank you?3. Contradicted yourself when you realised you'd done 1&2 above in order to get your nonsensical claims back in line
At least it can be checked, rather than running amok in made up make believe la la land.I'd forgotten how much you struggle to comprehend simple ideas.
Let's try again:
1. If science agrees with Bible, science is correct
There is no science that can disagree with God or His word. The bible also may not be as silent on many things as you think.2. If that exact same science says something and the Bible is silent BUT it doesn't conflict with Dad's weird religion, that exact same science is correct
3. If that exact same science says something and the Bible is silent BUT it conflicts with Dad's weird religion, that exact same science is wrong.
Do you agree that science has corroborated the following claims from the bible (just a sample):Name any of it that is not dated with same state past belief based dating? Ha. None eh?
You chose to handwave it away. That's not the same as missing it.Oh? I missed that.
Not sure, why, is this related to topic?Do you agree that science has corroborated the following claims from the bible (just a sample):
1. King David
2. Nebuchadnezzar
3. Nehimiah's Wall
4. Battle with Mesha, King of the Moabites
For King David, sure. Remember he lived long after Babel!All of these scientific confirmations rely on accurate dating. Will you accept the dates science gives them, or will you deny that the dates are accurate?
Only as far back as our present nature existed!If you accept those dates as accurate, then you must agree that any other dates science provides which agree with the Bible are accurate, right?
OK. You've stated clearly that you are happy that scientific dates back as far as Babel are acceptable.Only as far back as our present nature existed!
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