Why do I feel uncomfortable?

[mafiedler]

I think I've been spoiled by my Baptist church. I went to many churches before I came here, and only two others have made me feel so much at home.

But, now my hubby takes my kids to a Charismatic church on Sundays, because I have to work.

I feel so uncomfortable with that. I used to attend a charismatic church, and I felt uncomfortable most of the time there. But now, since I've taught my children by the Bible, and at my church we're taught by the Bible, I fel uncomfortable w/ a church that speaks in tongues, when the Bible says its on legitimate to speak in tongues when a translator is present. Also, the Bible says women should never speak in tongues, but at hubbys church they do.

 

[HumbleMan]

Also, the Bible says women should never speak in tongues, but at hubbys church they do.

I can't speak to your first concern (I personally feel nervous whenever I'm in a Baptist church ), but I've never heard of the above teaching. Do you know what scripture that is from?

 

[unimportantbuthisnameis]

misread

 

[bshaw96]

I belong to a charasmatic church. I married a Methodist. Nothing makes me more uncomfortable than a Methodist church. And when he first went to church with me it was amusing at best, and now he enjoys it. I think it's a matter of personal choice more than anything.

As for speaking in tongues being only for men, Ive never read that in the Bible, and Ive experienced it a few times myself. The important thing is your children are being raised Christian, not a specific denomination. None of that is going to matter in eternity anyway.

 

[mixster]

What does it matter where he takes the kids as long as they are christians! Do u think the Baptist hold all truth? Well they dont and for the most part Charismatics are loving and good christians. I say the kids are getting a well rounded view of the christian faith so dont worry so much. And no where does the Bible says tongues are not for christians and women as well as anyone that is christian can speak in tongues or prophesy for the Bible says in the last days your sons and daughters shall prophesy . That is the trouble in the christian world today every body thinks they are the only way and that is not true for we can learn from each other.

 

[jcright]

I think I've been spoiled by my Baptist church. I went to many churches before I came here, and only two others have made me feel so much at home.

But, now my hubby takes my kids to a Charismatic church on Sundays, because I have to work.

I feel so uncomfortable with that. I used to attend a charismatic church, and I felt uncomfortable most of the time there. But now, since I've taught my children by the Bible, and at my church we're taught by the Bible, I fel uncomfortable w/ a church that speaks in tongues, when the Bible says its on legitimate to speak in tongues when a translator is present. Also, the Bible says women should never speak in tongues, but at hubbys church they do.

I don't blame you. I don't agree with talking in tongues either. The research that I have done on that topic suggests that, although tongues were used back in the days of the bible, the gift is no longer being given. The purpose of spiritual gifts is for mankind. Knowing that, one of the questions I would raise is: What is this person saying and who is the target audience? If they say it's to God, then we need to seriously question the passage from Rom 8:26. I'd also have to question why God would need for us to use his gifts to talk to him...since when does God need something...from us no less!

If I were you, I would ask your husband to support his reasons on a biblical basis. In the meantime, do some searching yourself. I popped in the following phrase on Yahoo!'s search engine: Is the gift of tongues for today? The first two listings, just by glancing, seemed interesting. Since I only glanced at them, I'm not going to post the sites. I did, however, agree with their conclusions (which I did read in full)...of course, their conclusions concur with the research that I've done in the past, so I would naturally like it

 

[ZiSunka]

I cna understand your discomfort. A lot of charismatic churches I have been to make visitors feel uncomfortable for several reasons. Like any other denomination, each local church needs to be examined for adherence to orthodox doctrine, for Biblical teaching and preaching, and for supportive fellowship of believers. Talk to your husband about your concerns and see what he says. Above all, be a good wife and be kind and calm when you talk to him about it, showing him love and respect and not fear and hostility. Ask him why he chose that church, and really listen to him. Discuss your concerns, with a Bible for reference. If after all discuss has been exhausted, he chooses to keep going to that church, you should humbly submit to his decision as befitting the head of the household.

 

[Leimeng]

~ I am sure you will get used to it. I pray you do.
~ Speaking in tounges is Biblical and very much a part of the New Testament Church.
~ There is no where in the Bible where it says that the gifts of the Spirit have stopped operating. That opinion is based on the traditions of man and NOT on the word of GOD.
~ I have no doubt that if you ask the Holy Spirit to teach you about the gifts, you will end up operating in them as well.
~ Continue to discuss amongst youselves...

Peace,

Leimeng

Flatulo Ergo Sum ~~~

~ If you can`t be kind, at least have the decency to be vague.

 

[Tenorvoice]

I cna understand your discomfort. A lot of charismatic churches I have been to make visitors feel uncomfortable for several reasons. Like any other denomination, each local church needs to be examined for adherence to orthodox doctrine, for Biblical teaching and preaching, and for supportive fellowship of believers. Talk to your husband about your concerns and see what he says. Above all, be a good wife and be kind and calm when you talk to him about it, showing him love and respect and not fear and hostility. Ask him why he chose that church, and really listen to him. Discuss your concerns, with a Bible for reference. If after all discuss has been exhausted, he chooses to keep going to that church, you should humbly submit to his decision as befitting the head of the household.

Wiser word could not have been spoken......

As for the speaking in tounges thing, I have a hard time understanding why we focus on such smell and petty things as this. Yes the Bible speaks of the 1st century Chruch and some of the Apostles speaking in tounges. It has been taken far out of hand just like the "snake handler" denominations. They take Acts 28:2-6 we out of hand they belive that only "true" Christians can handle deadly snakes get bitten and live to tell about it. This is sad.

As long as the Chruch is a Bible beliving/teaching/proclaiming church and its doctrine is sound and the Pastor is teaching from nothing but the Holy word in his sermons then I see nothing wrong with it. JMO tho'

 

[mixster]

To anyone here please show me one Scripture that says the first church spoke in tongues but we are not allowed to use this and other gifts of the Spirit. To say that God favored the early christians over us is rediculeous. He loves us all and gives all good gifts to all his children if we use the God given faith to use them.
The Charismatics, Pentacostals are just as much christians as any Baptist so dont worry over things that do not mean anything!!!!!

 

[ZiSunka]

No one here knows who is Christian and who isn't. But most of us do believe that tongues done the way charismatics do them is not the Biblical tongues, which is when a person suddenly is able to speak a language they never studied, a real language, a human language, for the purpose of communicating the Good News to new groups of people.

I have been to a number of charismatic churches, and some of them are orderly, but some of the are complete chaos, with people jumping up and yelling gibberish whenever they feel like it, or saying that the Lord told them to preach something that is unBiblical. Those are the charismatic churches we are reacting to. Those are the ones that make us uncomfortable, because we can tell from what goes on and what is being said that God is not with them.

Tongues are for today, but babbling has nothing to do with tongues.

 

[mixster]

Lambslove: Dear Christian Lady. The gifts of the Spirit are abused today just as they were in the early church but Paul did not say ignore them but showed us how to use them in 1 Cor: 12, 13, and 14. You or anyone of us cannot judge who is speaking from God in tongues or prophesy or any of the gifts without the gift of discernment. We cannot throw out the baby with the bath water, and it is not gibberesh but a language. There are thousands of languages in this world and no telling how many angelic languages which Paul said he spoke. It is up to the pastor to make sure the gifts are used correctly but dont simply sluff off anything that is mentioned in Gods Word because u do not understand them.
I will admit that tongues seem foolish at times but God said he would use the foolish things of the world to confound the wise. I have found out myself that when I speak in tongues it might sound like gibberesh but after researching the words I was praying in I discovered I was saying over and over again man, soul, salvation and peace and I was praying in Hebrew and Spanish langauges I never learned. Also I have googled many words I am praying in tongues and they have all been words in another langauge including Swahili. Tongues are real dear lady and they are beautiful and can and do help us pray to God in the mysteries of the Spirit and is available to anyone that by faith wish for this Gift. But of course if you do not wish God will not force you or anyone else to because it is by faith we receive all good things from God.

 

[ZiSunka]

Mixster, please don't be condescending. I don't like it. I know perfectly well what the Bible says about tongues, and it doesn't say that tongues are unintelligible language made up of strings of sounds with no meaning. Even speakers of "tongues" can rarely agree on what those sounds mean. Real languages have structure, vocabulary, definitions and most importantly, consistency. Few of the babblings of so-called tongues-speakers have any of that. Many studies have been done on tongues, and they aren't real languages because they lack the basics of what makes up real language. If no one else can understand it, it's not a language. Even the pagans can manifest that kind of tongues, and frequently do in their prayers. It has nothing to do with the Spirit, and frankly, saying it does borders on blasphemy. Anything the pagans can do is not a manifestation of the Spirit.

Real tongues are the ability to speak in language the person never studied.

What is the point of speaking individual words in spanish, hebrew or swahili? Unless there is a person there who speaks all three, the message is lost.

Your demeaning words that imply that I do not desire good things from God really tick me off. Just because I have never spoken a language I didn't study doesn't mean you did. I've seen many examples of people, Christians and non- Christians speaking tongues and it is a manifestation of emotionalism, not the Spirit.

Go into a foreign land and make yourself understood in a real language you never studied and I wll believe it is the Spirit, but not until then.

 

[bshaw96]

Lambslove: Dear Christian Lady. The gifts of the Spirit are abused today just as they were in the early church but Paul did not say ignore them but showed us how to use them in 1 Cor: 12, 13, and 14. You or anyone of us cannot judge who is speaking from God in tongues or prophesy or any of the gifts without the gift of discernment. We cannot throw out the baby with the bath water, and it is not gibberesh but a language. There are thousands of languages in this world and no telling how many angelic languages which Paul said he spoke. It is up to the pastor to make sure the gifts are used correctly but dont simply sluff off anything that is mentioned in Gods Word because u do not understand them.
I will admit that tongues seem foolish at times but God said he would use the foolish things of the world to confound the wise. I have found out myself that when I speak in tongues it might sound like gibberesh but after researching the words I was praying in I discovered I was saying over and over again man, soul, salvation and peace and I was praying in Hebrew and Spanish langauges I never learned. Also I have googled many words I am praying in tongues and they have all been words in another langauge including Swahili. Tongues are real dear lady and they are beautiful and can and do help us pray to God in the mysteries of the Spirit and is available to anyone that by faith wish for this Gift. But of course if you do not wish God will not force you or anyone else to because it is by faith we receive all good things from God.

I have only experienced this a few times in my life, but know that when I did there was tremendous spiritual breakthrough. The most recent time I was suffering from debilitating depression/anxiety. I had prayed until I was blue it seemed. I remember just lying on my bed and told God I was not gonna quit praying or leave that room until I was released from this. I began to cry and pray to Him and I began speaking in a language I did not understand. I do not know what I said, but know that the presence of God was as if He were holding me right there He was so close. I could feel Him ministering to me. And I was delivered right there. Im by no means a fanatic who likes to play with snakes either , and thank God for these experiences in my life. It is awesome.

 

[Heatherondo]

I think I've been spoiled by my Baptist church. I went to many churches before I came here, and only two others have made me feel so much at home.

But, now my hubby takes my kids to a Charismatic church on Sundays, because I have to work.

I feel so uncomfortable with that. I used to attend a charismatic church, and I felt uncomfortable most of the time there. But now, since I've taught my children by the Bible, and at my church we're taught by the Bible, I fel uncomfortable w/ a church that speaks in tongues, when the Bible says its on legitimate to speak in tongues when a translator is present. Also, the Bible says women should never speak in tongues, but at hubbys church they do.

Well, it could be God telling ya something, or it could be you just arent comfy with a church that is different from yours.

Examine their belief statement. Maybe go a few times if you can, pray about it.

I do understand the feeling uncomfy, I went with a friend to a penecostal church, nothing they did mde me feel uncomfy, but my gut was just screaming to me something wasnt right.

 

[bshaw96]

Well, it could be God telling ya something, or it could be you just arent comfy with a church that is different from yours.

Examine their belief statement. Maybe go a few times if you can, pray about it.

I do understand the feeling uncomfy, I went with a friend to a penecostal church, nothing they did mde me feel uncomfy, but my gut was just screaming to me something wasnt right.

Just don't assume that means it was because it was a pentecostal church. There may well have been something wrong with the church, but that doesn't mean the pentecostal denomination is wrong. My daughter once went to a methodist church, and during singing, began to clap her hands. My mom in law told her to stop because they didn't "clap their hands in this church". It's not like she was somersaulting down the aisle She was just clapping her hands. But I don't think that's a methodist thing, just that church. Every denomination has bad churches. No one denomination knows it all and the problem comes when they believe they do, then it becomes about religion and not a relationship with God. JMO.

 

[MbiaJc]

I cna understand your discomfort. A lot of charismatic churches I have been to make visitors feel uncomfortable for several reasons. Like any other denomination, each local church needs to be examined for adherence to orthodox doctrine, for Biblical teaching and preaching, and for supportive fellowship of believers. Talk to your husband about your concerns and see what he says. Above all, be a good wife and be kind and calm when you talk to him about it, showing him love and respect and not fear and hostility. Ask him why he chose that church, and really listen to him. Discuss your concerns, with a Bible for reference. If after all discuss has been exhausted, he chooses to keep going to that church, you should humbly submit to his decision as befitting the head of the household.

Wiser word could not have been spoken......

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[mafiedler]

What does it matter where he takes the kids as long as they are christians! Do u think the Baptist hold all truth? Well they dont and for the most part Charismatics are loving and good christians. I say the kids are getting a well rounded view of the christian faith so dont worry so much. And no where does the Bible says tongues are not for christians and women as well as anyone that is christian can speak in tongues or prophesy for the Bible says in the last days your sons and daughters shall prophesy . That is the trouble in the christian world today every body thinks they are the only way and that is not true for we can learn from each other.

I can see I'm going to have ALOT to say. I DO NOT think that Baptists hold the truth. I think the BIBLE holds the truth. Read 1 Corinthians 14 especially 14:27-34 which says its okay to speak in tongues, if only two people do it, and one interprets. And no woman can speak in tongues. My other problem with this church is they refer to God as Big Daddy....I can't think of anything more crass and condescending. It makes me cringe when young rappers give a "shout out to my homeboy J.C." What happened to HONORING God?

 

[mafiedler]

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Thank you.

 

[Tenorvoice]

I can see I'm going to have ALOT to say. I DO NOT think that Baptists hold the truth. I think the BIBLE holds the truth. Read 1 Corinthians 14 especially 14:27-34 which says its okay to speak in tongues, if only two people do it, and one interprets. And no woman can speak in tongues. My other problem with this church is they refer to God as Big Daddy....I can't think of anything more crass and condescending. It makes me cringe when young rappers give a "shout out to my homeboy J.C." What happened to HONORING God?

Most Christians/people who claim to be Christians have gotten the attitude of God being this little mamby pamby old guy, and do not treat Him with the respect that He so richly deserves. The ones that get me are the ones that do the "Jesus is my boyfreind" types of songs. What ever happened to having the "fear" (respect/honor) of God the Father. I would have to aggree with you on this one Mafiedler. I know that we do not hold the Truth and never will the ONLY truth that there is is in the Bible God's Holy Word.

The other thing that I belive that we as Christians are not fulfilling our duty to ( in general that is) is the we are not called to just be Christians. The term Christian is only used twice in the entire Bible, where as the trem Disciple is use 27 times in the Bible and 26 of them are in the NT. We are not called just to be Christians, we are called to be Disciples. THis takes much more commitment, time, honor, respect, and repentance.

God Bless