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Why Do Evolutionists Always Battle the Theist and Not the Discussion?

EastCoastRemnant

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Interesting isn't it that the Word of God does not use these disqualifiers and has stood the test of time for over 3500 years. Something about shifting sands and a rock.... risky building site you've invested in mate.
 
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Interesting isn't it that the Word of God does not use these disqualifiers and has stood the test of time for over 3500 years. Something about shifting sands and a rock.... risky building site you've invested in mate.
Stood the test of time?! Sorry but no.
 
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It's all mass indoctrination. You could of course say the same about faith in God but the big difference is faith is a personal experience that can be seen and felt, not just theorized.
 
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Stood the test of time?! Sorry but no.
It hasn't changed in it's purpose or ideology one iota... man's relationship to it may change but the Word of God is unchanging... warts and all.
 
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It hasn't changed in it's purpose or ideology one iota... man's relationship to it may change but the Word of God is unchanging... warts and all.
It is a book written by men, fallible unless you can provide evidence otherwise.
 
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Evolutionary science is dogmatic in it's variableness over time... hardly compelling as truth.

As far as faith, it is true that evolution and Christianity both require it.
 
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Evolutionary science is dogmatic in it's variableness over time... hardly compelling as truth.

What?

As far as faith, it is true that evolution and Christianity both require it.

This is the common refrain from creationists, but it only works if you define "faith" loosely enough to include almost anything rendering the word relatively meaningless in the process.
 
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It is a book written by men, fallible unless you can provide evidence otherwise.
I can show you prophesies that were recorded hundreds of years before the events happened... exactly as it was predicted to happen. Interested in checking some of them out?
 
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It's all mass indoctrination.

Are you equating education with mass indoctrination? Is learning the multiplication tables mass indoctrination? Learning the names of all the States? Learning about World War 2?

Where does the mass indoctrination end???

You could of course say the same about faith in God but the big difference is faith is a personal experience that can be seen and felt, not just theorized.

Religious faith is not science and science is not religious faith. Apples and grapefruits.
 
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Are you equating education with mass indoctrination? Is learning the multiplication tables mass indoctrination? Learning the names of all the States? Learning about World War 2?

Where does the mass indoctrination end???

Injecting a few lies into a bunch of truth has always been the MO of indoctrination.... when have you heard me disparage physics, mathematics, etc?


Religious faith is not science and science is not religious faith. Apples and grapefruits.

Exactly, one is real and the other is conjecture....
 
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I can show you prophesies that were recorded hundreds of years before the events happened... exactly as it was predicted to happen. Interested in checking some of them out?
And are the existing documents older than the predictions?

Sorry but my dad wrote a series of Cold War thrillers predicting the discovery of the fake hitler diaries 6 months before it occurred, secret talks with Russia 6 months beforehand, a nuclear disaster in The Soviet Union before Chernobyl, and a coup against Gorbachev, I’m not impressed by prophecy.
 
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Injecting a few lies into a bunch of truth has always been the MO of indoctrination.... when have you heard me disparage physics, mathematics, etc?

If you're going to disparage biology, why not physics and math? In for a penny, in for a pound...

Exactly, one is real and the other is conjecture....

I'm sure you believe that.

Tell me, can you name any practical applications of religious faith in modern biology-based industries?
 
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I can show you prophesies that were recorded hundreds of years before the events happened... exactly as it was predicted to happen. Interested in checking some of them out?
If I walk into a restaurant, and order off the menu, and they bring my food just as ordered, is that prophecy?
 
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I can show you prophesies that were recorded hundreds of years before the events happened... exactly as it was predicted to happen. Interested in checking some of them out?
Fulfillment proves the prophecy, not the Bible. Let me give you an example: Let's say you have a divine vision, a real 100% genuine prophetic vision. In it, God tells you, "That guy Speedwell angers me because he doesn't believe the Bible. I'm going to strike him with lightning and send him to the Devil." Now, you are seriously impressed by this and begin preaching about it, moved to eloquence by the vividness of your experience and the NT Times stringer hears about it and writes a little article. A few weeks later, I'm walking down the street and Pow! I am struck by a bolt of lightning out of a clear blue sky and vanish in a puff of smoke. Now, the NY Times is really interested and the next day's headline reads, "Divine Prophecy Fulfilled!"

And you know what? By your logic, that would prove the literal inerrancy of the New York Times.
 
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changing science terminology to what you want it to mean is called newspeak. It’s a form of lying . Pretending that evidence doesn’t exist and then lying about is , well , lying. So what would you call a liar besides a liar?
 
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. All you’ve demonstrated as that you have no idea what you’re talking about . Ok so define either word - macroevolution and Abiogenesis . I’ll bet you’ll get them wrong
 
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changing science terminology to what you want it to mean is called newspeak.
And what is changing Biblical terminology to suit science?

plutoing
 
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And what is changing Biblical terminology to suit science?

plutoing
. That’s better than changing science terminology to suit silly fantasies
 
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