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How about you pick your favorite prophecy, and we can discuss.When a man is shown the ruling kingdoms of the world for the next 4 empires and describes them with even the very name they would be called, then that is Bible prophesy... or when it can predict three one of a kind weather events all to take place within the span of a few decades in the exact order 1700 years in advance, that is Bible prophesy... I got lots more, there's dozen about the coming of Jesus with such accuracy that it is statistically impossible for even a few of the dozens of prophesies of Christ's birth and life to happen, let alone all of them.
So you're saying animals have consciences and not instinct?Firstly, there is very, very strong evidence that empathy and altruism has pronounced benefits when it comes to social species, humans included.
Secondly, survival of the fittest doesn't mean killing someone or something that threatening. It means being the best suited to your environment in order to reproduce. Fitness has a very specific meaning when it comes to evolutionary biology.
It depends on the context and the cognitive abilities of the animals in question. I may not judge a lizard for eating a beetle, but I would judge a chimpanzee for beating an infant chimp to death with a stick.
Those behaviors we associate as "moral" typically have very strong benefits for group survival and/or biological fitness. Similarly those behaviors we associate as "immoral" typically have negative impacts.
Remember that evolution is about populations, rather than individuals, so generally speaking it rewards behaviours that are beneficial to the ingroup, and punishes behaviours that are negative to the ingroup.
This is hardly a new or original idea, and much has been published on this subject in the last 50-60 years. Your personal inability to figure this out doesn't discount the evidence.
Probably right after God told us it was... ever notice the wisdom that is contained in the last six Commandments for us to function as a society?It’s wrong because we decided it’s wrong.
Probably right after God told us it was... ever notice the wisdom that is contained in the last six Commandments for us to function as a society?
Which form... God instituted a form of servitude of 7 years in which the servant was to be treated with dignity and respect. Kind of like an apprenticeship. Actually if you really try and understand the societal safeguards God put in place for taking care of widows and orphans, prohibition of usury, concept of jubilee's where a person would have their familial property returned to them if they needed to surrender it for debt, etc.... quite a fair and just society He designed for us after we sinned. Before sin, God had a completely different plan for us but we chose our lot.Who told us slavery was wrong?
I’m not aware of being able to sell or beat your apprentice within an inch of his life.Which form... God instituted a form of servitude of 7 years in which the servant was to be treated with dignity and respect. Kind of like an apprenticeship. Actually if you really try and understand the societal safeguards God put in place for taking care of widows and orphans, prohibition of usury, concept of jubilee's where a person would have their familial property returned to them if they needed to surrender it for debt, etc.... quite a fair and just society He designed for us after we sinned. Before sin, God had a completely different plan for us but we chose our lot.
you're saying animals have consciences and not instinct?
The fact that God thought to ask it of him in the first place is hideous enough - that Abraham listened to the voices in his head and was fully prepared to gut his kid makes him as big a monster as his God. You agree though that Jeptha sacrificed his daughter and your God was good with that?Only the Creator is able to not only give life but to take it... as far as Abraham goes, you will remember that God stopped him from the killing of his son. It was an object lesson of the Son that was to be sacrificed for mankind.
So, the Bible is wrong then?God didn't change the ten Commandments, man did.
Radiometric dating is among the primary go-to on this, and there are a variety of ways this can be done - you can use carbon dating, potassium-argon, uranium-lead, uranium-thorium and even rubidium-strontium dating - then you have a variety of other non-radiometric forms, such as dendrochronology, ice-core dating, lake-varve dating, all depends on where and how you found your fossil. Some other forms of relative dating might include thermoluminesence dating, typology and stratigraphy layer dating too if you're working an archaeological site - your mileage may vary but you'll easily find 3 to 7 ways a fossil will be dated before an age is settled on.Can you name just a couple of other reliable ways that fossils get aged then?
What makes you think I lack faith or belief in the Bible? Because I am challenging your lame argument for literal inerrancy?As an Anglican, I am surprised by you lack of faith or belief in the Bible... I mean, whats the point of being a Christian if one doesn't believe the very handbook of the club?
The theory of evolution may shed light on how our capacity for moral reflection arose, but it is not itself the source of the content of our morality. But it doesn't matter; it is obvious that you are not asking the question sincerely. You would not have made that snotty crack about my lack of faith in the Bible if you were sincere about any of this.Why would it be wrong for me to do so is what I'm asking... but I suspect you don't want to broach that issue of evolution, do you?
The first 4 are even more important than the last 6... The Lawgiver must be respected as the Laws given.6/10 ain’t bad.
That would be man's idea of servitude/slavery.... you are confusing God's wisdom with man's.I’m not aware of being able to sell or beat your apprentice within an inch of his life.
Every time I've ever seen a debate going on about creation versus evolution. The evolutionists always battle the creationist directly rather than the concepts at hand. If we are discussing the idea that animals all came from the same thing why can't we stick with that idea until the end? But rather instead of making progress towards understanding, the evolutionists break down into bickering with the person himself about how well he argues his point and whether there is validity through that. If we all stick to the concepts and just the concepts, then there should be no reason why we couldn't make progress towards a common understanding.
I see, so you are the teacher and I am the student, and you get to grade my test, huh ? It doesn';t work that way, this isn';t an online university, and I REALLY doubt you are qualified to grade anything on the issue.. All you’ve demonstrated as that you have no idea what you’re talking about . Ok so define either word - macroevolution and Abiogenesis . I’ll bet you’ll get them wrong
What makes you think I lack faith or belief in the Bible? Because I am challenging your lame argument for literal inerrancy?
I notice you didn’t define either wordI see, so you are the teacher and I am the student, and you get to grade my test, huh ? It doesn';t work that way, this isn';t an online university, and I REALLY doubt you are qualified to grade anything on the issue.
I know exactly what I am talking about, if you think not, then PROVE it, don't play silly games, commit drive by ad hominems, and run your mouth.
A typical response, attack the poster, not what is posted. The angry new evolutionist's have been using this tactic for years now, Hitchens, Dawkins, et. al.
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