Why did the snake entice Eve first but not Adam?

loNe said:

look kitten...you say the right phrases... but He isn't in them.

Please become you, your soul, in Him.

..and be the soul that you are - not an automate.

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No. I am perfectly fine as I am

Guys don't hate me for this but its my take that Eve was created superior to Adam in every way but physical strength. He made Eve more like Himself. Even though Adam was made in the image of God, which he was, Eve was taken out of man and made better. Its a picture of what will happen to us when we leave this life and obtain bodies that can never die.
But back to Eve.....women generally are more kind, compassionate, caring, empathetic, than men are. They have better looks than men. Softer skin, softer voices, ect. Men are obsessed with female beauty and let's face it - so are women.
So I think this is why Eve was tempted first. She was more like God than Adam and he went for the jugular.

Or I could be wrong.

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Jesus_is_Saint said:

Why did the snake (Satan?) persuade Eve to eat the forbidden fruit, but not to talk to Adam first?
Could he talk to Adam first but Adam had rejected him, and so he came to entice Eve?

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Because she was more intelligent than Adam. If the serpent could persuade her, he could do anything.

Adam was smart. After all, he named all the animals. (Gen 2:19-20)

tturt said:

Adam was smart. After all, he named all the animals. (Gen 2:19-20)

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Yes, accurately too, as it happens.

Jesus_is_Saint said:

Why did the snake (Satan?) persuade Eve to eat the forbidden fruit, but not to talk to Adam first?
Could he talk to Adam first but Adam had rejected him, and so he came to entice Eve?

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Eve was at the tree of knowledge of good and evil... Adam was not.

Confrontation page 12 "The Test of Probation"

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Adam and Eve were permitted to partake of every tree in the garden save one. There was a single prohibition. The forbidden tree was as attractive and lovely as any of the trees in the garden. It was called the tree of knowledge because in partaking of that tree of which God had said, “Thou shalt not eat of it,” they would have a knowledge of sin, an experience in disobedience. {12.3}
Eve went from the side of her husband, viewing the beautiful things of nature, delighting her senses with the colors and fragrance of the flowers, and admiring the beauty of the trees and shrubs. She was thinking of the restrictions which God had laid upon them in regard to the tree of knowledge. She was pleased with the beauties and bounties which the Lord had furnished for the gratification of every want. All these, said she, God has given us to enjoy. They are all ours; for God has said, “Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it.” {12.4}
Eve had wandered near the forbidden tree, and her curiosity was aroused to know how death could be concealed in the fruit of this fair tree. She was surprised to hear her queries taken up and repeated by a strange voice. “Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?” Eve was not aware that she had revealed her thoughts in audibly conversing with herself; therefore, she was greatly astonished to hear her queries repeated by a serpent. She really thought that the serpent had a knowledge of her thoughts, and that he must be very wise. {13.1}
She answered him, “We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: but of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: for God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.” {13.2}
Here the father of lies made his assertion in direct contradiction to the expressed word of God. Satan assured Eve that she was created immortal, and that there was no possibility of her dying. He told her that God knew that if she and her husband should eat of the tree of knowledge, their understanding would be enlightened, expanded, and ennobled, making them equal with Himself. And the serpent answered Eve that the command of God, forbidding them to eat of the tree of knowledge, was given to keep them in such a state of subordination that they should not obtain knowledge, which was power. He assured her that the fruit of this tree was desirable above every other tree in the garden to make them wise, and to exalt them equal with God. He has, said the serpent, refused you the fruit of that tree which, of all the trees, is the most desirable for its delicious flavor and exhilarating influence. {13.3}
Eve thought that the serpent’s discourse was very wise, and that the prohibition of God was unjust. She looked with longing desire upon the tree laden with fruit which appeared very delicious. The serpent was eating it with apparent delight. She longed for this fruit above every other variety which God had given her a perfect right to use. {14.1}
Eve had overstated the words of God’s command. He had said to Adam and Eve, “But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.” In Eve’s controversy with the serpent, she added “Neither shall ye touch it.” Here the subtlety of the serpent appeared. This statement of Eve gave him advantage; he plucked the fruit and placed it in her hand, using her own words, He hath said, If ye touch it, ye shall die. You see no harm comes to you from touching the fruit, neither will you receive any harm by eating it. {14.2}
Eve yielded to the lying sophistry of the devil in the form of a serpent. She ate the fruit, and realized no immediate harm. She then plucked the fruit for herself and for her husband. “And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.” {14.3}

Patriarchs and Prophets ... page 55

Eve really believed the words of Satan, but her belief did not save her from the penalty of sin. She disbelieved the words of God, and this was what led to her fall. In the judgment men will not be condemned because they conscientiously believed a lie, but because they did not believe the truth, because they neglected the opportunity of learning what is truth. Notwithstanding the sophistry of Satan to the contrary, it is always disastrous to disobey God. We must set our hearts to know what is truth. All the lessons which God has caused to be placed on record in His word are for our warning and instruction. They are given to save us from deception. Their neglect will result in ruin to ourselves. Whatever contradicts God’s word, we may be sure proceeds from Satan. {PP 55.2}
The serpent plucked the fruit of the forbidden tree and placed it in the hands of the half-reluctant Eve. Then he reminded her of her own words, that God had forbidden them to touch it, lest they die. She would receive no more harm from eating the fruit, he declared, than from touching it. Perceiving no evil results from what she had done, Eve grew bolder. When she “saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat.” It was grateful to the taste, and as she ate, she seemed to feel a vivifying power, and imagined herself entering upon a higher state of existence. Without a fear she plucked and ate. And now, having herself transgressed, she became the agent of Satan in working the ruin of her husband. In a state of strange, unnatural excitement, with her hands filled with the forbidden fruit, she sought his presence, and related all that had occurred. {PP 55.3}
An expression of sadness came over the face of Adam. He appeared astonished and alarmed. To the words of Eve he replied that this must be the foe against whom they had been warned; and by the divine sentence she must die. In answer she urged him to eat, repeating the words of the serpent, that they should not surely die. She reasoned that this must be true, for she felt no evidence of God’s displeasure, but on the contrary realized a delicious, exhilarating influence, thrilling every faculty with new life, such, she imagined, as inspired the heavenly messengers. {PP 56.1}
Adam understood that his companion had transgressed the command of God, disregarded the only prohibition laid upon them as a test of their fidelity and love. There was a terrible struggle in his mind. He mourned that he had permitted Eve to wander from his side. But now the deed was done; he must be separated from her whose society had been his joy. How could he have it thus? Adam had enjoyed the companionship of God and of holy angels. He had looked upon the glory of the Creator. He understood the high destiny opened to the human race should they remain faithful to God. Yet all these blessings were lost sight of in the fear of losing that one gift which in his eyes outvalued every other. Love, gratitude, loyalty to the Creator—all were overborne by love to Eve. She was a part of himself, and he could not endure the thought of separation. He did not realize that the same Infinite Power who had from the dust of the earth created him, a living, beautiful form, and had in love given him a companion, could supply her place. He resolved to share her fate; if she must die, he would die with her. After all, he reasoned, might not the words of the wise serpent be true? Eve was before him, as beautiful and apparently as innocent as before this act of disobedience. She expressed greater love for him than before. No sign of death appeared in her, and he decided to brave the consequences. He seized the fruit and quickly ate. {PP 56.2}
After his transgression Adam at first imagined himself entering upon a higher state of existence. But soon the thought of his sin filled him with terror. The air, which had hitherto been of a mild and uniform temperature, seemed to chill the guilty pair. The love and peace which had been theirs was gone, and in its place they felt a sense of sin, a dread of the future, a nakedness of soul. The robe of light which had enshrouded them, now disappeared, and to supply its place they endeavored to fashion for themselves a covering; for they could not, while unclothed, meet the eye of God and holy angels. {PP 57.1}
They now began to see the true character of their sin. Adam reproached his companion for her folly in leaving his side and permitting herself to be deceived by the serpent; but they both flattered themselves that He who had given them so many evidences of His love, would pardon this one transgression, or that they would not be subjected to so dire a punishment as they had feared. {PP 57.2}
Satan exulted in his success. He had tempted the woman to distrust God’s love, to doubt His wisdom, and to transgress His law, and through her he had caused the overthrow of Adam. {PP 57.3}

Grandpa2390 said:

We don't know all the ends and outs of what happened. But one could ask a few questions like:

why did Eve misquote the one commandment from God... was she dumb, or did Adam not teach her properly. and so forth.

But at the same time, I said even if Adam stood over her the 24/7, she could still eat the fruit of the tree if she wanted to. I mean, unless he chained her to a different tree or something... lol. but these were different times

They both have responsibility. In this regard.

But then there is the other aspect. I explained this in more detail in another post later on. We see that a large part of the sin committed (based on the curse and scriptures we read later on in the New Testament concerning responsibilities of women in the church/family/society/etc) was that Eve usurped the God-ordained order for man and woman. She took the lead.

Adam is not guiltless here, he submitted to her will and ate the fruit. He knew he was sinning. Eve may have been deceived, but Adam wasn't. Paul is pretty clear about this.
And this is reflected in the curse given.

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First, Adam did not merely submit to her will regarding eating the fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good-and-Evil. As one AIG article says, 'Adam, as the leader of the family, was held responsible, not only for his own sin of eating from the tree, but also because he did not provide adequate protection for his wife, allowing her to sin.' (Who Gets the Blame for Original Sin—Adam or Eve?, by Dr. Georgia Purdom, May 29 2012) Here is suggested that Adam was complicit in Eve's being tempted, namely that Adam was right there as vicarious participant.

So, it seems to me that what Paul means by Eve, and not Adam, being 'tempted', is that Eve was simply the easier target for the serpent's actual effort: that Adam let it happen as his own aloof way of finding out if the fruit was indeed as God had said it was.

...Eve did not seem the least to suffer. So Adam felt safe to partake of it as well.

But the fruit was not designed to divide man from woman, but rather to keep them together. So, it did not have any adverse physiological effect until both man and woman partook. This is reflected in the spiritual realm as well: a marriage is only as flawed as are both spouses. If one spouse is spiritually perfect toward the other, and the other is evil, the marriage is, in some real sense, preserved unto God (so long as the evil spouse does not divorce the perfect spouse).

Second, though you note well that both Adam and Eve were responsible, this is countered by your considering it accurate to think that Eve may have misquoted God. The fact is that Genesis 1-3 does not teach, nor imply, that Eve was never not under Adam. On the contrary, Genesis 2 plainly implies that Eve, in her first minutes or hours of life, was under God alone. She was under Adam only when Adam met her and named her. His naming her was his act of recognizing her as his own. The question, therefore, becomes one of normal interaction between God and any unfallen creature made in God's image.

Only if we import to the text the conditions between a fallen man and his fallen wife can we ever think that Genesis 2-3 teaches that Eve was treated as a non-person by God. This is horrible, and it renders God a worse male chauvinist pig than any fallen man possibly can be.

Most generally, then, is this: What most naturally is to be discovered about something is not the same as what we mentally might find least effortful to assume about that thing. Is the present world the truest standard by which to make sense either of itself or of the Creation account?

Specific to this case is this: There is nothing spelled out in the text that anyone at all told Eve what God had told Adam. This allows exactly two initial normal possibilities as to how she knew that God had said anything about the particular tree: (a) God told her Himself, and Genesis 2 implies that He did; or (b) Adam told her, and the whole Bible implies that Adam did.

But notice that only (a) allows the normative fact that the Bible teaches that God wants a personal relationship with each human being regardless of gender. So only (a) allows that God is the Father of both Adam and Eve, and that God initially had as personally direct a relationship with Eve as He initially had had with Adam. Therefore, only (a) fully implies that the Genesis 1 and 2 accounts are condensed core accounts: the accounts imply a host of normal facts which they do not spell out for our 'royally' passive convenience.

In short, we are not judge of these accounts. They are judge of us.




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