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Why did Kerry Lose?

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onesheep

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Here's a very good article from the WSJ that gives a number of reasons as to why Kerry lost the election.

It helps to dispel the widely held belief that it's because of the fundamentalist, right-wing Christians. Christians are now being put in the same category as Islamic fundamenatalist terrorists.
 

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onesheep said:
Here's a very good article from the WSJ that gives a number of reasons as to why Kerry lost the election.

It helps to dispel the widely held belief that it's because of the fundamentalist, right-wing Christians. Christians are now being put in the same category as Islamic fundamenatalist terrorists.
You know what I like about Bush is he is not afraid to be unpopular. And, with things currently as they are, here and abroad, we need stability in our leader. So he says some things that people don't like to hear. Some body has to.

I didn't always like what my parents said when I was growing up, but they knew for the most part what was best for me. That's how I see Bush. I didn't drink the kool-aid where he is concerned. (I didn't buy into the propaganda)--

And I am glad that I didn't.

Michelle
 
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I agree, Miss Shelby. And one of the things that was very true in the article:
What was remarkable in this election is that one candidate, President Bush, never changed: He said what he meant and meant what he said.
President Bush did not waiver. I don't agree with everything he's done but at least I know he's not going to flop around like a beached whale, nor will he surrender our nation's sovereignty to the UN or other countries.

What's he has done takes a lot of guts and determination. That's what we need.
 
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onesheep said:
Here's a very good article from the WSJ that gives a number of reasons as to why Kerry lost the election.

It helps to dispel the widely held belief that it's because of the fundamentalist, right-wing Christians. Christians are now being put in the same category as Islamic fundamenatalist terrorists.

Well, it is the firm belief of many people, including myself, that putting state gay-marriage ammendments on the ballot the same day as the election helped to galvanize the religious right.
 
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What was remarkable in this election is that one candidate, President Bush, never changed: He said what he meant and meant what he said.

Iraq sponsored al-Qaeda terrorism.
Iraq sponsored al-Qaeda and had WMD's.
Iraq had WMD's and mis-treated its people.
Iraq mistreated its people.

Bush keeps on saying that we're safer now without Saddam Hussein, but that conclusion is only viable if the premises of "Iraq sponsored al-Qaeda terrorism" or "Iraq had WMD's" weren't false or dubious, and Bush has admitted that both were!
 
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Bushido216 said:
Well, it is the firm belief of many people, including myself, that putting state gay-marriage ammendments on the ballot the same day as the election helped to galvanize the religious right.
Don't you think that this brought lots of left wing supporters of "gay marriage" to the polls also? I think this issue is important to lots of people on both sides, and they saw this as the day they can politically express themselves with their vote on this issue.
 
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Bushido216 said:
What was remarkable in this election is that one candidate, President Bush, never changed: He said what he meant and meant what he said.

Iraq sponsored al-Qaeda terrorism.
Iraq sponsored al-Qaeda and had WMD's.
Iraq had WMD's and mis-treated its people.
Iraq mistreated its people.

Bush keeps on saying that we're safer now without Saddam Hussein, but that conclusion is only viable if the premises of "Iraq sponsored al-Qaeda terrorism" or "Iraq had WMD's" weren't false or dubious, and Bush has admitted that both were!
It''s been shown and proven by the U.S. and other countries[./b] that Hussein sponosored and monetarily suported Al Quada.

It's been proven that Iraq and Hussein not only mistreated their people but that genocide did happen (note the mass graves that have been found, even recently).

It's been shown by the U.S. and other countries that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction that were moved out of Iraq and into surrounding countries (mostly Syria) and that he was continiuing to find and buty more products to continue to produce these weapons. Weapons that were moved out of Iraq because the U.S. stupidly (in my opinion) went to the U.N. first. The same U.N. that included European countries that were illegally getting money for oil.

Don't even try to pull that old "no weapons, no connection toi Al Queda" baloney that has been proven wrong by both the U.S. and other foreign countries.

All those lies don't fly with me and they definitely don't fly with the Lord.
 
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Kerry lost because, IMNSHO,

A) Bush has kept us safe. Whether or not Iraq had ties to Al Qaeda (which I believe existed), we are fighting the terrorists in the Middle East and that is the central front on the War on Terror. The voters knew this.

B) People don't want higher taxes. Kerry said he'd roll them back for the rich (and how would've he done that without congressional approval?). Socialism doesn't work. But targeting the rich, the Left is in essence creating class warfare. Common sense tells you that if the big corporations save money, they expand to make more money thus creating more jobs and more tax revenue for the government. The voters knew this.

C) Bush fulfilled his 2000 GOP nominee speach by saying, "They have not led. We will." And Bush did lead. He led us through tough times and never changed his stance. He stood firm even when the polls showed Kerry beating him. Kerry changed to get votes. He was pro-war until he saw the momentum Howard Dean was gaining by being the anti-war candidate. Kerry jumped on that bandwagon. He couldn't take a stance and couldn't defend his changes. The voters knew this.

Those are the three main reasons why I believe Bush won. A minor factor, with the voters but probably a major one with God, was Bush's faith. He isn't ashamed to talk about it and lets it play a major factor in his life. But he doesn't gloat it. He doesn't barge in late for camera opportunites and doesn't pull a Clinton when exiting church (you know, Bill always turned toward the camera so the camera would get a shot of him holding his bible). Kerry tried to say you have to separate your faith and your public life. Guess what, you can't do that.
 
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There are some people who believe it was divine providence ;)

BushHalo.jpg

P.S. I have no real preference as I do not live in America nor am I American, I just thought this was an unbelievable photo :D

John.
 
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he is not afraid to be unpopular
I REALLY REALLY REALLY hope now that he doesnt have to concern himself with re-election that he does more pro-life things. He didnt last year cause that would really make him unpopular (even some "catholics" are prolife), but I hope we might see some advances in that peculiar institution of abortion.
 
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ps139 said:
Don't you think that this brought lots of left wing supporters of "gay marriage" to the polls also? I think this issue is important to lots of people on both sides, and they saw this as the day they can politically express themselves with their vote on this issue.
Without the gay marriage issue the Left still would have come out in droves out of a dislike for Bush. Bush needed the gay marriage issue (wag the dog, anyone?) in order to do the same for the right.
 
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Kerry lost because the electoral and popular vote both went to Bush. More people wanted Bush than Kerry, simple as that!
For demoracts to blame the religious right is just bunk! They are trying to turn this into a religious war. Waht are they saying, that no church going people voted for Kerry? Bunk!
More people related to President Bush's ideal's and values and trusted him enough to give the green light for a second term.
 
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prodromos said:
There are some people who believe it was divine providence ;)

BushHalo.jpg

P.S. I have no real preference as I do not live in America nor am I American, I just thought this was an unbelievable photo :D

John.
Okay, that is a really great photo!

And yes, everything is in His Hands and He is in control so I suppose that is the reason why.

I'm just already tired of people blaming the right-wing fascist terrorist fundamentalists for Bush's re-election and the demise of America. :mad:
 
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John Kerry has such a radically pro-abortion voting record that he even voted against the partial-birth abortion ban (after it was nearly unanimously approved by BOTH parties) :cry: . Anyone who wants to support killing even viable, FULLY-SENSATE babies could never get my vote. Even if I had agreed with every other position he held (actually, I didn't agree with any of them!) , I could not vote for him in good conscience.



Glad Bush won!!!

Wiffey
 
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Epiphanygirl said:
Kerry lost because the electoral and popular vote both went to Bush. More people wanted Bush than Kerry, simple as that!
For demoracts to blame the religious right is just bunk! They are trying to turn this into a religious war. Waht are they saying, that no church going people voted for Kerry? Bunk!
More people related to President Bush's ideal's and values and trusted him enough to give the green light for a second term.

I wouldn't "blame" the religious right, but I would say that they were largely responsible for Bush's victory. Bush brought "moral values" to the forefront of the debate to cover and divert attention away from the economy and his foreign policy.

Honestly I feel used, as a Catholic, by Bush in order to divert attention from other areas of the nation. I decided not to vote for someone who would use me for his own ends.
 
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