Why Christian not allowed eat to pig?

bbbbbbb said:

If eating pork leads to illness and early death please tell that to my 90-year-old mother who has eaten pork her entire life.

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Define: "eaten pork her entire life"

I think you are having a lend of us here. I doubt very much her daily diet was pork.

marktheblake said:

Define: "eaten pork her entire life"

I think you are having a lend of us here. I doubt very much her daily diet was pork.

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In a nutshell, here is the story. My grandmother's family were farmers. In the fall they slaughtered the hogs and cattle. During the year they ate them. VIrtually every baked item was made with lard which was rendered from hog fat. So, every time my mother ate a piece of pie or a roll, she was eating lard from a pig. She regularly ate bacon at breakfast. At supper there was often some form of pork. My grandmother also made great head cheese from the hog which was eaten in a sandwich. Then there were all kinds of sausages. Yesterday my mother dined on pork at an Asian restaurant. The Chinese are excellent at preparing various meats.

I do not know of a single week of her life which did not contain pork in significant amounts of her diet. There may have been a few unusual days without any pork product, but they were very few and far between. Even Christmas and Thanksgiving, when we typically ate poultry, had pies with crusts made from pork lard.

visionary said:

His objective was to fulfill the role laid out in scripture for the Lamb of God.

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A crucial part of which is explained in Galatians 3. Worth a read.

I'm a big fan of Pork. Love it, and I am a Christian. I give thanks to the Lord every time I sink my teeth into a plate of carnitas.

Galatians 3:2-3
2I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by observing the law, or by believing what you heard? 3Are you so foolish? After beginning with the Spirit, are you now trying to attain your goal by human effort?

Galatians 3:10-13
10All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law." 11Clearly no one is justified before God by the law, because, "The righteous will live by faith." 12The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, "The man who does these things will live by them." 13Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law...

Galatians 3:24-25
24So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. 25Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law.

1 Corinthians 1:23-26
23"Everything is permissible"—but not everything is beneficial. "Everything is permissible"—but not everything is constructive. 24Nobody should seek his own good, but the good of others.
25Eat anything sold in the meat market without raising questions of conscience, 26for, "The earth is the Lord's, and everything in it."

Boris, in the New Testament Jesus states that "it is not what goes inside a man that makes him unclean, but what comes from inside, because out of the heart come all kinds of immoral filth." By stating this, Jesus declared all foods permissible to eat. God made all kinds of good things for us to eat, and he wants you to enjoy them, because this is why He gave us taste buds!

As for why in the Old Testment God asked the Israelites to follow certain eating habits, I do not believe we will ever fully understand. But by what Jesus said, He has now declared all foods as edible.

You may eat pork, and enjoy it. God bless.

Crankitup said:

IMO Jesus fulfilled the law and replaced it with a higher one.

I understand all this and that's why I don't eat pork, or shellfish. Unless of course it was served to me in someone's home as a guest. I'd take the chance on my health rather than risk offending them.

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Interesting.
My brother's son in law is a Messianic and my niece also joined that Sect.
Whenever he and my brother visit, we know he is not allowed to eat certain foods according to the Law of Moses so we generally try and serve "kosher" food.

I myself have eaten and will eat just about anything, some that might even "make a billy goat puke" [Couldn't resist quoting from a Rambo movie ]

Oh, I'm sorry. I am So Tired! I will get back to this later.

Dontcha just love discussing Scripture???

Meeker said:

Boris, in the New Testament Jesus states that "it is not what goes inside a man that makes him unclean, but what comes from inside, because out of the heart come all kinds of immoral filth." By stating this, Jesus declared all foods permissible to eat. God made all kinds of good things for us to eat, and he wants you to enjoy them, because this is why He gave us taste buds!

As for why in the Old Testment God asked the Israelites to follow certain eating habits, I do not believe we will ever fully understand. But by what Jesus said, He has now declared all foods as edible.

You may eat pork, and enjoy it. God bless.

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Look at the food got commanded them not to eat. The pig is a scarvenger, it eats anything and it has an extremely poor digestive system. Crabs and lobsters are scavengers of the sea. Look at the foods God told them are good for them to eat. Most of them eat only vegetation. It is obvious that it was for health reasons. So the questions begs to be asked, "Did God care more about the health of his people in the Old testament?" No he doesn't. Jesus did not come to allow us to eat what we want.

When Jesus was faced with the situation where he had to defend his disciples because they ate bread without washing their hands, he said that it is not what goes into a man that defiles them but what comes out. All sins proceed from the heart. Disobedience to anything God requires must come from the heart or else it cannot be counted as sin. People who sin in ignorance are looked over because they did not make a conscious decision to sin, therefore it did not proceed from the heart. If God did not command against eating certain food, they would still be dangerous to our health, but it would not be sin. Once the command is there and disobedience to the command occurs knowinly then that sin comes from the heart. When he said that all "meat" are clean he was not referring to just meat, but food in general. Meat is used to decribe food many times and not just meat itself. And it must have been understood that he was referring to the foods that were eaten.

The belief was that if you ate without washing your hands, the food will become unclean and defile you. Jesus was debunking this belief and getting to the heart of the matter. He was not giving them permission to eat anything. Many of those who taught that tradition had hearts far from God. They were pretensive and Jesus was trying to direct them to look inside themselves. His final conclusion was "but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man". That was the whole issue. Whether or not it was right to eat with hands washed or not. The issue was not whether or not it was right to eat certain foods or not. We must take it in context.

According to the word that first proceeded out of the mouth of God, in I Timothy 4.

Forbidding to eat certain foods is Demonic Doctrine....read I Timothy 4 for yourselves.....

Sigh

PROPHECYKID said:

Jesus did not come to allow us to eat what we want.

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All things are lawful but not everything is profitable.

There have been times when I have felt guilty regarding eating pork or
eating seafood like shrimp and lobster. I don't know why...I just felt
a little on the guilty side - sort of like eating chocolate cake for
breakfast instead of steak and eggs or hashbrowns or pancakes with
a glass of orange juice.

At some point the above has to be cultural. Cereal and milk included.

There was a point in my life when I put aside many things including
frostings, processed sugars, soda pop (the conviction was that God
did not intend us to carbonate our drinks), and pork, lobster, crab
and shrimp were definitely on that list. I still wonder about at what
point I was being legalistic verses being obedient to the conviction
of the Holy Spirit. Keep in mind that during this time I believed in
only eating healthy fruits and vegetables and lean meats and drinking
only water and natural juices. I did not believe it was in the best
interests of my body to drink coffee, tea, or even hot chocolate
let alone alcohol. Wine was o.k. in moderation (4 to 6 oz). I was
against processed foods and particularly saturated fats and processed
sugars. This was not something I studied. This was strickly spiritual
conviction. I remember being against eating pork but poultries were
good in moderation.

But Acts 10: 10-14 later gave me trouble interpreting my own
conviction back those days. Perhaps I should study this passage
more.

Is it better to NOT eat a pig? Bacon? Ham?

I have always wondered about the Easter tradition of eating Ham.

I believe it is a symbol of freedom because of the Resurrection
but perhaps I am not certain. Perhaps it is just different than
eating turkey again.

Is it wrong to eat pork chops?

I haven't thought and prayed about this for years now....
perhaps I should?

SpiritDriven said:

I Timothy 4.
Forbidding to eat certain foods is Demonic Doctrine...

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I know that you would want to specify this to the church age, since
you would not say that the Torah was demonic doctrine.

There IS a point at which you and I draw lines. Clearly if something
is known to be harmful we will not intentionally eat it and be grateful
for it.

God created mercury, but that doesn't mean we should eat inorganic
substances that are known to be harmful. God created plants that
are poisonous but that doesn't mean that it is a demonic doctrine
NOT to be grateful for them.

We need to employ logic and draw lines at some point with regards
to the things that God created vs the things that God "intended"
us to eat freely of.

There is a difference between eating a chicken or a turkey and
eating certain poisonous salamanders.

There is a difference between eating healthy leaf lettuce and
eating cannabus.

God created them both...but not necessarily to share freely.

Boris Kalmatchov said:

Hello, my name Boris, I live Australia now but bfor was in Ruussia. Recently I become Christian (born agin) and I try to understand all things in Bible. My family never practice any religion, in Russia. So I not complete understand. My quesion is - why Chhristian not allowed eat pig? In Leviticuus 11 it say all animals like pig, kite, owl, moth 'detestable' which in my dictionary mean bad. SO: why god allow us to eat grasshoppr but not moth and pig? I like eating pig bvery much.

Thank you

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This subject is a VERY touchy one for many people because it deals with the one of the carnal desires that Satan can (and has) exploit. We (human race) are born with a natural tendency to do evil. Paul calls our carnal nature the "outward/old man" and he is at war with our spiritual nature the "inward man/new man". By nature we do not like our liberties restricted in any area so we are naturally going to err on the side of what we want. With all due respect to those in this thread I must speak directly and say we are very much still subject to this law for one simple reason.......unclean meats didn't suddenly become ok after the cross. After sin entered the world, certain animals were set aside by God to clean up the filth on land and in the sea. They have not stopped being "nature's garbage desposal" after the cross.

Here is one verse that cannot be denied........
15 For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

16 For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many. 17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD. Isaiah 15-17

It's quite clear here that these verses deal with God's judgement on the world at his second coming. Also notice that the Lord equates the swine with the mouse. Why do those believing that pork eating is ok but would never consider other animals, that have the exact same function as the swine, as fit to eat.

Most evangelical christians believe homosexuality to be a sin, and rightly so. However, it is in Leviticus that we learn that homosexuality is sin and that's exactly where the dietary laws are found. Why be so staunchly opposed to one while defending the other? Truthfully, the confusion lies in a misunderstanding of certain passages in the new testament that deal with foods like Colossians 2:16 for instance....

16Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

This reference has nothing to do with unclean meats being ok now. The passage in context is dealing with meat and drink offerings in the OT sanctuary services (Exodus 29:41; Ezra 7:17; Ezekiel 45:17......ect.). There are quite a few examples like this but I'll leave it at that for now.

Best thing for you to do is pray to God to give you the answer, open your bible with an open mind and he'll show it to you.

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Do You Eat Pork? (2)

Informational:

Go to a feed mill store and check out the large cans of Drano. On the back you'll find the instructions on how to flush out a pig.

Decades ago now, my dad was done south working on a project and one day the guys decided to go to a well-known restuarant for their famous pork ribs. One of them who knew that my dad doesn't eat pork asked him what he was going to eat. The others immediately wanted to know why he wasn't going to eat the ribs like the rest of them. When my dad told them because of what it says in the Bible, they poo-poo'ed him. Then my dad's boss who was a chemical engineer told them about a study he had done on pigs while in college (animals are a living chemical factory). When he finished they decided not to go to the rib joint. I'd love to get my hands on that study!

edmister said:

1 Corinthians 1:23-26
23"Everything is permissible"—but not everything is beneficial. "Everything is permissible"—but not everything is constructive. 24Nobody should seek his own good, but the good of others.
25Eat anything sold in the meat market without raising questions of conscience, 26for, "The earth is the Lord's, and everything in it."

Bow season opened last weekend for deer. I am going this Saturday. If a piggy pops out, guess what? ........ BAMB!!!!!! Time for a good pork roast!!!

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If it was good enough for Rambo..........

YouTube - RAMBO FIRST BLOOD (The Best Bits)

Christians are allowed to eat pork. Just make sure you cook it well.

Boris Kalmatchov said:

Hello, my name Boris, I live Australia now but bfor was in Ruussia. Recently I become Christian (born agin) and I try to understand all things in Bible. My family never practice any religion, in Russia. So I not complete understand. My quesion is - why Chhristian not allowed eat pig? In Leviticuus 11 it say all animals like pig, kite, owl, moth 'detestable' which in my dictionary mean bad. SO: why god allow us to eat grasshoppr but not moth and pig? I like eating pig bvery much.

Thank you

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God gave laws for our health. You can do as you like, but if you want to live the life that is healthy do as God says. Some say that it has change but is has not. In Romans it is not speaking against Leviticus< for God does not contridict Himself, but speaking to eating clean meats sacrificed to idols. The meat is not unclean because someone decide to kill it for idol worship.

SpiritDriven said:

According to the word that first proceeded out of the mouth of God, in I Timothy 4.

Forbidding to eat certain foods is Demonic Doctrine....read I Timothy 4 for yourselves.....

Sigh

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So God gave a demonic doctrine to the Jews?

mmmm....