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Why can't we do more or less whatever we want?

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Why can't we do more or less whatever we want as long as we don't hurt anyone? I heard the line from some people in the context of Christian circles that "Freedom is what we ought to do, not whatever we want to do". Okay, then why did we establish the United States (God bless Christian America and all of that), shouldn't we have just stayed under kings? What am I missing here?

Honestly, living in a world where we only do what we ought to do and don't do what we want to do sounds like a boring life.
 
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Why can't we do more or less whatever we want as long as we don't hurt anyone? I heard the line from some people in the context of Christian circles that "Freedom is what we ought to do, not whatever we want to do". Okay, then why did we establish the United States (God bless Christian America and all of that), shouldn't we have just stayed under kings? What am I missing here?

Honestly, living in a world where we only do what we ought to do and don't do what we want to do sounds like a boring life.
Is there something you want to do that you ought not to do?
 
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Why can't we do more or less whatever we want as long as we don't hurt anyone? I heard the line from some people in the context of Christian circles that "Freedom is what we ought to do, not whatever we want to do". Okay, then why did we establish the United States (God bless Christian America and all of that), shouldn't we have just stayed under kings? What am I missing here?

Honestly, living in a world where we only do what we ought to do and don't do what we want to do sounds like a boring life.
Love God and do what you want.
 
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Why can't we do more or less whatever we want as long as we don't hurt anyone? I heard the line from some people in the context of Christian circles that "Freedom is what we ought to do, not whatever we want to do". Okay, then why did we establish the United States (God bless Christian America and all of that), shouldn't we have just stayed under kings? What am I missing here?

Honestly, living in a world where we only do what we ought to do and don't do what we want to do sounds like a boring life.

The reason why the land of the free is not also the land where there are now laws is because we can misuse our freedoms to hinder the freedoms of others, so true freedom is not the freedom to do whatever we want, but the freedom to do what we ought. The goal of good legislatures is not to create laws that hinder our freedoms, but to create laws that enhance them, and no one knows better than God how we ought to live. So in regard to the Torah, we must be like violins who trust God to tie down our strings in order to make music.
 
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Is there something you want to do that you ought not to do?
. . . if it is repeatable . . .

In my case, I have benefited much more from learning how to love with different people, than I ever benefited from seeking sexual pleasure stuff. I have discovered how being intimate with pleasure feelings inside myself is not the same as being intimate with another person who is not inside myself :)

And love does me more good . . . not that you can't have both, at the same time, of course.

But God's love is perfectly satisfying, more and better than any human experience I have ever had.

So . . . in my case . . . I can see why God's word would say to avoid fornication and other wrong sexual stuff: because if God knows He won't have me doing it in His love, I will be missing out on how I could be loving.
 
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Why can't we do more or less whatever we want as long as we don't hurt anyone? I heard the line from some people in the context of Christian circles that "Freedom is what we ought to do, not whatever we want to do". Okay, then why did we establish the United States (God bless Christian America and all of that), shouldn't we have just stayed under kings? What am I missing here?

Honestly, living in a world where we only do what we ought to do and don't do what we want to do sounds like a boring life.
You can do more or less what you want, but you can't escape the consequences. That's because life is conditional and you have no choice about those conditions.
 
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Why can't we do more or less whatever we want as long as we don't hurt anyone? I heard the line from some people in the context of Christian circles that "Freedom is what we ought to do, not whatever we want to do". Okay, then why did we establish the United States (God bless Christian America and all of that), shouldn't we have just stayed under kings? What am I missing here?

Honestly, living in a world where we only do what we ought to do and don't do what we want to do sounds like a boring life.
I'm doing what I want to do so I guess I'm not doing what I ought to do? Doesn't really make sense to me. What if what I want to do is exactly what I ought to do?
Have more confidence!.
Blessings.
 
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I'm doing what I want to do so I guess I'm not doing what I ought to do? Doesn't really make sense to me. What if what I want to do is exactly what I ought to do?
Have more confidence!.
Blessings.
If we're smart, what we ought to be doing is what we want to be doing.

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The reason why the land of the free is not also the land where there are now laws is because we can misuse our freedoms to hinder the freedoms of others, so true freedom is not the freedom to do whatever we want, but the freedom to do what we ought. The goal of good legislatures is not to create laws that hinder our freedoms, but to create laws that enhance them, and no one knows better than God how we ought to live. So in regard to the Torah, we must be like violins who trust God to tie down our strings in order to make music.
The Torah. Are you Jewish?
 
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Why can't we do more or less whatever we want as long as we don't hurt anyone? I heard the line from some people in the context of Christian circles that "Freedom is what we ought to do, not whatever we want to do". Okay, then why did we establish the United States (God bless Christian America and all of that), shouldn't we have just stayed under kings? What am I missing here?

Honestly, living in a world where we only do what we ought to do and don't do what we want to do sounds like a boring life.
Are you Christian? If not, why do you care when Christians say what you ought to do vs what you want to do? If you are a Christian.... well if you don't like the rules, don't join the club!
 
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Why can't we do more or less whatever we want as long as we don't hurt anyone? I heard the line from some people in the context of Christian circles that "Freedom is what we ought to do, not whatever we want to do". Okay, then why did we establish the United States (God bless Christian America and all of that), shouldn't we have just stayed under kings? What am I missing here?

Honestly, living in a world where we only do what we ought to do and don't do what we want to do sounds like a boring life.

Practice makes perfect.
 
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There’s no choice to be made.
It reads like a choice.

Genesis 22:12
“Do not lay a hand on the boy,” he said. “Do not do anything to him. Now I know that you fear God, because you have not withheld from me your son, your only son.”

God didnt know which one Abe would choose. Could have gone one way. Could have gone the other. Not even God knew.
 
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It reads like a choice.

Genesis 22:12

God didnt know which one Abe would choose. Could have gone one way. Could have gone the other. Not even God knew.
To say that God didn’t know something is heresy.
 
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