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Genesis states it clearly that God is the Creator of all created things.
Mammals don't have feathers. Feathers aren't hair. Only sauropods have feathers.
So only the "created" things, eh?
What if none of the things are created? (I'm going to limit this to living things, because I don't want to get in how most created things were created by humans.)
Uh, no it was evidence even when I did not want it to be. It was evidence even when I was a creationist.
How, for instance, do you explain all the transitional fossils from reptile to mammals?
Sorry if I am missing something, did this comment add value to the original argument?
There are Mathematical and Philosophical objections to have actual "infinity" exists in our world.
I know God created, not because of evidence but because he told me so and I trust him.
Given that "and possibly worms" gives you the kind of "body type" that most animals had even after the Cambrian explosion I don't think this gives you any kind of certainty.We have evidence of simple bacteria and possibly worms before the Cambrian explosion so, at this point, absence of evidence is evidence of absence. The sudden appearance of complex life during the Cambrian explosion cannot be explained in the terms of Evolution.
Recently, an international Biologist stated that appearance of complex species were so rapid and is very little is known about the evolutionary ancestors so, it looks like "someone planted the fossils there". In his defense, he clarified that he was not talking about creator.
A lot given that mutations have been observed and many different causes found in nature have been measured and tested.Is the theory of Evolution falsifiable? putting it in a different way, what would it take to convince Biologists that it was not some "environmental factors" that diversified life in the way we know.
This is just declaring your point correct again. Do you have any evidence for this?A well defined, cumulative product posits intelligent design so, if it were some natural agents that caused the diversification of life then, the natural factors were caused by an intelligent agent we call, God.
As long as you don't help me find out what was missing, it is "our math".
We wouldn't be talking about Cambrian Explosion so much if there were evidence of its evolutionary ancestors and the time period was convincingly long enough. By the way, if those "uniqueness" resulted in some complex results then, it was an intelligent mind that was behind it.
The analogy purported to demonstrate that a well defined, cumulative product posits intelligent design.
I , along with many Christians, don't deny the mutation. The matter of contention is "what" caused the mutation - an intelligent mind or some environmental factors?
You believe it was some "natural, unintelligent" agents which changed mud (inorganic matter) into organic matter (amino acids), transformed it into protein molecule, infused it with DNA to form the first living cell? The process is so complex that researched believe the life on Earth came from outer space.
That is what happens when there is one species and another evolves from the first species. It splits in two. Now there are twice as many species.Who said every species splits into two ? Strawman.
...and DNA that controls the making of those features.Diamonds and snowflakes are pretty uniform unlike the living beings which have flash, bones, hairs, skin etc.
and in his 1859 book On the Origin of Species, Charles Darwin discussed the then inexplicable lack of earlier fossils as one of the main difficulties for his theory of descent with slow modification through natural selection.
Wikipedia, Cambrian Explosion
But we have modern day biologist trying to explain the Cambrian Explosion.
I would appreciate if you could be more specific and point out what is missing in the math.
I am convinced that Creator exists and our Universe and the life is His creation.
Through this discussion, I am trying to find out what it takes to convince an Evolutionists that it weren't some "unintelligent" natural agents which caused the mutation.
Recently, an international Biologist stated that appearance of complex species during the Cambrian Explosion were so rapid ands very little is known about the evolutionary ancestors, it looks like "someone planted the fossils there". In his defense, he clarified that he was not talking about creator.
I copy/pasted Wikipedia above and I do own a copy of "origin of species"
Looks like we are on agreement. There is an intelligent design behind the house ( you said, humans) because it was well defined and cumulative. Similarly, there was a design and designer, an intelligent one, behind the origin and diversification of life.
If "rib" is a metaphor, why can't "God" be a metaphor?It is certainly debatable what are metaphors and what are not in Genesis, however for this discussion, Genesis states it clearly that God is the Creator of all created things.
Did you walk somewhere this morning? Before you got there you had to get halfway. Assuming you could do that, you then had to walk half of the remaining distance. Assuming you could do that, you then had to walk half the remaining distance. No matter how many times you walk half the remaining distance, you still had further to go. Yet somehow you managed to get where you were going. And that could only be done by an actual infinity in our world.There are Mathematical and Philosophical objections to have actual "infinity" exists in our world.
Ah, so before the Cambrian all we had were bacteria and worm body types, and then suddenly we had the lizard body type and the monkey body type and the elephant body type?We have evidence of simple bacteria and possibly worms before the Cambrian explosion so, at this point, absence of evidence is evidence of absence. The sudden appearance of complex life during the Cambrian explosion cannot be explained in the terms of Evolution.
Wait, this guy wasn't just a biologist, he was a Biologist? Sounds important. And he was "international"? Wow! Impressive. Who was this guy? Can you show me where he said this?Recently, an international Biologist stated that appearance of complex species during the Cambrian Explosion were so rapid ands very little is known about the evolutionary ancestors, it looks like "someone planted the fossils there". In his defense, he clarified that he was not talking about creator.
As a Human Biology graduate, I'm well aware of the structure of humans - and how its obvious flaws point away from intelligent design and towards continuous variation and selection by survival and reproductive success that applies to all other creatures; i.e. evolution. I'm also aware of just how closely we resemble other animals both structurally and in the smallest details.All those things you mentioned are of uniform structure compared to living beings which have flesh, bones, hairs, skin etc., Their eyes produce tears to cleans it from dust and eye lid work as the shield, it was the wax which protests the ears. softetest part - brain - is enclosed in the hardest part - skull. It has complex nerve system and mechanisms like blood cloting etc. to ensure its survival. if you cant find the signature of the Master Creator here, I am sorry.
Citation?Consensus among researchers is that the life is too complex to have occurred on Earth.
No, there's no 'must' about it (and, as it happens, oxygen was highly toxic to the first life on Earth).The first form of life must have arrived from outer space. Well, by the time the life arrived on Earth, it was provided with water, oxygen etc. do u=you not see an i(I)ntelligent plan here?
You forgot the Ediacarans that preceded the Cambrian. Your claims would be more convincing if you showed some knowledge of the subject.We have evidence of simple bacteria and possibly worms before the Cambrian explosion so, at this point, absence of evidence is evidence of absence. The sudden appearance of complex life during the Cambrian explosion cannot be explained in the terms of Evolution.
You forgot the Ediacarans that preceded the Cambrian. Your claims would be more convincing if you showed some knowledge of the subject.
Oh boy, your really off track now. I'm not talking about infinities just trying to eliminate man created things from the list and stick just to the "God created" ones.
You'd previously said "Genesis states it clearly that God is the Creator of all created things." So in response I would ask, if we have non-created things, specifically living things, then we don't need a god to create them, right?
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