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Really? I see nothing in the bible that indicates that the biblical view is in anyway optimistic. Please show where Jesus said the world was going to get better?Whether the Bible teaches that the world will get better is debatable - some readers interpret all the predictions of doom and gloom as referring to events in the first century.
Jesus said that He was initiating the Kingdom of God! That sounds like good news to me. And he clearly stated that it was good news for the poor. Now many Christians will bend that into "good news for the poor in spirit". That sounds a little unjustified to me. Granted, Jesus also said the poor would always be with us. But that does not mean that poverty will not become less of a problem over time.Really? I see nothing in the bible that indicates that the biblical view is in anyway optimistic. Please show where Jesus said the world was going to get better?.
I came out of a denom that believed as you, but I looked around and things didn't add up, with the increasing evil.Plus there is stuff in Isaiah which speaks of nations beating their swords into plowshares, etc. I suspect you believe that is post-second-coming.
I totally disagree.Whether the Bible teaches that the world will get better is debatable - some readers interpret all the predictions of doom and gloom as referring to events in the first century.
What is clear is that, in general and over long time scales, life is definitely getting better - much better - for almost all people. This does not mean that there are not very serious threats facing us. But the data is pretty clear - things are getting better.
....aaaaaand we're done.I came out of a denom that believed as you......
Quick question: Do you watch the news on a regular basis?why are there so many evil people in the world?
why are there so many evil people in the world?
That is the truth that I spoke, whether receive it is up to you. It prolly wasn't your denomination ( thought you had stated United or Presbyt on your avatar ) but it was one that believed similarly in those that believed the world was evolving better---I just didn't see it. But it doesn't surprise me one bit that you are done.....aaaaaand we're done.
I cannot, of course, have a serious conversation when you post something like this. No hard feelings.
If your implied point is that the media distorts reality by only reporting bad news, I think you are absolutely right. It is well known among experts that we tend to exaggerate the likelihood of events that come easily to mind (called the "availability heuristic"). If you hear about murder and mayhem on the TV, you will greatly exaggerate the degree to which such stuff happens. Every day, thousands and thousands of planes safely go from A to B. But it is only the one in 10,000,000 that crashes that makes the newsQuick question: Do you watch the news on a regular basis?
why are there so many evil people in the world?
From Forbes magazine:
In a powerful study entitled “The short history of global living conditions and why it matters that we know it” by Max Roser, an economist at the University of Oxford and the founder of Our World in Data, we learn that on virtually all of the key dimensions of human material well-being—poverty, literacy, health, freedom, and education—the world is an extraordinarily better place than it was just a couple of centuries ago.
I am virtually certain that we are. Do you doubt this?The real question is if we are better off than we were in 1957.
I was ten in 1957. My Dad was a mail carrier during the day and after work he delivered the evening newspaper. My Mom didn't work outside the house. We had school supplies, clothes, and were buying a house. We were the first ones in our neighborhood to own a television.I am virtually certain that we are. Do you doubt this?
Are we just looking at America? or the world?A couple of centuries ago we still had slavery, no refrigeration and outhouses. Horses pooped in the street and gentlemen put their coats over the horse poop so the ladies wouldn't get their shoes dirty.
The real question is if we are better off than we were in 1957.
From Forbes magazine:
In a powerful study entitled “The short history of global living conditions and why it matters that we know it” by Max Roser, an economist at the University of Oxford and the founder of Our World in Data, we learn that on virtually all of the key dimensions of human material well-being—poverty, literacy, health, freedom, and education—the world is an extraordinarily better place than it was just a couple of centuries ago.
That is a perception. Can you back it up with well founded data?
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