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Why are there so many atheists on a Christian site?

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Colter

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Apart from when he did, in the temple.

errrm, I don't think the Scottsmen was thinking about the episode of running the profiteers out of the Fathers house/temple. I think he meant war, violence, forced conversions, state religions, that kind of stuff.
 
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The last part of what you wrote is unintelligible to me. Can you rephrase it?

"He who would save his own life will loose it, he who will give it up shall find it." Human pride protects the vulnerability of the fragile ego.
 
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* But atheist do believe something, they aren't a void. They just have different beliefs about the universe.

* Atheist can be very dense people, I'm not saying that God is "readily apparent" but everything we know is from God, for "in him we live, move and have our being" but spirit perception is something one has to want.
 
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Please explain how you come to the conclusion that atheists have a fear of faith? Depending on your definition of faith, atheists could have faith in many things.

I think Atheist fear being dominated by a religion. But yes, I agree that Atheist do have faith in things but when discussing religion they suddenly assert that everything the believe is reasoned out in the math lab first.
 
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errrm, I don't think the Scottsmen was thinking about the episode of running the profiteers out of the Fathers house/temple. I think he meant war, violence, forced conversions, state religions, that kind of stuff.

Errrm, I made no distinctions and indeed what Archyopteryx pointed out is the initiation of force. Not to mention that Jesus is supposed to be God come down to Earth and this same God killed every man woman and child except for the eight on the arc with a flood, according to the myth. Not to mention, also, the explicit threat that runs all through Christianity of eternal torture in Hell. When you can not persuade with evidence then you must resort to threats of physical violence as your imaginary God does.
 
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I think Atheist fear being dominated by a religion. But yeas, I agree that Atheist do have faith in things but when discussing religion they suddenly assert that everything the believe is reasoned out in the math lab first.

This does not answer his question of how you came to that conclusion.
 
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* But atheist do believe something, they aren't a void. They just have different beliefs about the universe.

How do you know which beliefs atheists have about the universe, or anything for that matter?

* Atheist can be very dense people, I'm not saying that God is "readily apparent" but everything we know is from God, for "in him we live, move and have our being" but spirit perception is something one has to want
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Dense, as in stupid?
 
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I think Atheist fear being dominated by a religion. But yeas, I agree that Atheist do have faith in things but when discussing religion they suddenly assert that everything the believe is reasoned out in the math lab first.

I was a Christian for 40 years and was never remotely dominated by my belief. Therefore, fear of being dominated by it (which sounds like brain washing) was never a factor for me.

Are you dominated by your religion?
 
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Indeed it is not readily apparent. You have repeatedly failed to provide a rational method of distinguishing what you call "God" from something you are merely imagining, when asked. And Colter, I suggest you stop throwing words like "dense" around too freely unless you want us to point out a certain irony in your statement.

We can all imagine that all we know is "from God" and that "in him we live, move and have our being". One can say this about anything that one imagines. All we know is from Sparky the wonder Unicorn "for in him we live, move and have our being" but spirit perception of Sparky the Wonder Unicorn is something one has to want.
 
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I was a Christian for 40 years and was never remotely dominated by my belief. Therefore, fear of being dominated by it (which sounds like brain washing) was never a factor for me.

Are you dominated by your religion?

That's why I told you once before, you were never a whole hearted disciple of Jesus (if you were you would know it and quite likely still be one) you were simply a member of a religious social club, probably born into Christianity like most people today.

Yes, I have decidedly abandoned my entire life to the religion of Jesus.

"To isolate part of life and call it religion is to disintegrate life and to distort religion. And this is just why the God of worship claims all allegiance or none.

The gods of primitive men may have been no more than shadows of themselves; the living God is the divine light whose interruptions constitute the creation shadows of all space.

The religionist of philosophic attainment has faith in a personal God of personal salvation, something more than a reality, a value, a level of achievement, an exalted process, a transmutation, the ultimate of time-space, an idealization, the personalization of energy, the entity of gravity, a human projection, the idealization of self, nature’s upthrust, the inclination to goodness, the forward impulse of evolution, or a sublime hypothesis. The religionist has faith in a God of love. Love is the essence of religion and the wellspring of superior civilization." UB 55
 
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Another opinion, you can not demonstrate to be accurate.

What will be the next mind reading adventure?
 
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You could want Sparky yet never find him because he doesn't exist. We have found God and he does exist. The density and shear arrogance of the atheist is that he or she is unwise to the degree that they think that the billions of people who have found God are just imagining things. You take yourselves to seriously.
 
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We have found God and he does exist.

When? Where? I'd like to meet him and ask a few questions. He has some 'splainin' to do.



The density and shear arrogance of the atheist is that he or she is unwise to the degree...

Hey, we're all unwise about most things.



...that they think that the billions of people who have found God are just imagining things.

I find it amazing you have the ability to know what people think. I hope you use your special powers for good and not evil.


You take yourselves to seriously.

Really, is it that obvious? I try not to let my serious hang out too much. I'll work on that.
 
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Gods spirit is inside of you, if and when you ever surrender and get out of your own way, you can find him, he isn't hiding.
 
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Did you ever completely dedicate yourself to Jesus?

Are you the final judge on who believes in Christianity and Jesus?

Sorry bud, I don't think so. I said I was a Christian for 40 years and I believed in it. That bothers you to no end, that someone would leave your faith, so you have to manufacture this whole; you were not truly a Christian deal. It is an old and very weak argument and reeks of desperation.

Did you know him?

How would you know if someone knew Jesus? What is the criteria you have in your own mind to judge others in this regard?
 
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Gods spirit is inside of you, if and when you ever surrender and get out of your own way, you can find him, he isn't hiding.

This sounds an awful lot like metaphysical gobbledygook. Why can't I just ring him up?
 
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One could say this about anything he imagines. We have found Sparky the Wonder Unicorn and he does exist. The number of people who believe a certain thing exists has no bearing on whether or not that thing exists. Indeed belief in gods requires one to accept the primacy of consciousness metaphysics which would mean that there is no difference between what one imagines and what is real.
 
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Gods spirit is inside of you, if and when you ever surrender and get out of your own way, you can find him, he isn't hiding.

Sparky the Wonder Unicorn's spirit is inside of you, if and when you ever surrender and get out of your own way, you can find him, he isn't hiding.
 
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