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This is such a lazy explanation. No, I'm not an atheist because I secretly want to "sin". I'm an atheist because I'm not convinced by the claims of theists.
No True Scotsman would say such a thing.
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Atheism puffs up the self, because the Atheist exalts his own capacity to reason above any other source of truth. The root of atheism is not strict adherence to empirical evidence in the universe, but rather a personal unwillingness to give up that which God has said is sin. Atheists, be truly honest with yourselves and you will discover it is your love of sin that keeps your eyes blind to the truth. The creation itself speaks loudly and plainly of its Creator. Even your own body, Atheist, testifies of its creator, though your mind and mouth refuse.
Had you truly known Christ as your savior, you would still be such.
I mean, not that I want them gone, but it just seems strange to me that so many atheists would choose to spend their time and eergy on a site that is antithetical to their worldview. The interesting thing to me is that they don't seem to be here to proselytize, which would make sense to me. I assume that they, or many of them anyway, feela sense of community here if they've been here for a while. So, if not to show the poor theist the freedom of atheism, what is the draw?
This is such a lazy explanation. No, I'm not an atheist because I secretly want to "sin". I'm an atheist because I'm not convinced by the claims of theists.
That's part of your religion. It's not a logical truth.
People make claims about Christ. Christ is not here to make any claims. So what?
If that's the case, then I have no more reason to endorse Christianity than I do to endorse Islam or Judaism.Believing in Christ is not about logic, it's about subjective faith. Even logic is subjective.
No, that is one of the claims that people make.Christ was here. That is a fact.
People claimed that Christ made claims... in fact, you just did here.Christ made claims.
Oh, I found God... long ago. It's just that it is a... theologically different God.Stop looking to people to find God, you will get let down most times.
Correct.If that's the case, then I have no more reason to endorse Christianity than I do to endorse Islam or Judaism.
There never was a gospel OF Jesus. Everything that he alledgedly said is reported second and third and forth hand... and in many cases invented and attributed to him.There was the gospel of Jesus
Then there was Paul's new gospel about----> Jesus. Almost the whole of the NT is about Paul's experiences with the purported Jesus of the Damascus road. The ENTIRE Jesus movement became heavily influenced by a man who never knew Jesus in the flesh, was never taught by him personally and had been a former persecutor of Christians.
Christianity became a second hand, third hand, Popes hand-religion, a mere shadow of the original.
No, that is one of the claims that people make.
People claimed that Christ made claims... in fact, you just did here.
Oh, I found God... long ago. It's just that it is a... theologically different God.
If it was so important for him to spread his "gospel"... he should have stayed around.
Hey, just a thought, but maybe the rude or condescending theists are not true believers in Christ, but are servants of deception designed to bolster your pride and keep you in unbelief. Or maybe some, who you perceive as rude, are telling you the painful truths you need to hear that you might escape the judgement of God?
Essentially it is because Jesus has made a promise, and everyone expects God to keep His promises. If you are saying that God has not kept His promise to you, that concerns me and I want to act on this to find out who is at fault. (FYI: Nobody can deny the action I take). Is that what you are saying?I don't know why you expect me to play along with a confirmation bias, especially when it's part of a religion to which I don't belong. And no, I am not trying to encourage anyone else to convert one way or another.
Well, no. Scientifically speaking, there is observable and testable evidence for evolution. There isn't any such thing for "Christ" or even for Jesus of Nazareth. There is historical evidence for such a figure, but even that can be debated. As for his claims (that's what we were talking about, not his 'existence').Christ's existence here is just as factual as evolution. Scientifically speaking of course.
When I read "his words", I cannot even be sure that they were "his". There are notable instances in what is claimed to be "his words" that we know weren't.The way you know if it's true or not for yourself is by reading his words. Stop pointing flaws in people and start showing the flaws in Christ.
There never was a gospel OF Jesus. Everything that he alledgedly said is reported second and third and forth hand... and in many cases invented and attributed to him.
If it was so important for him to spread his "gospel"... he should have stayed around.
There never was a gospel OF Jesus. Everything that he alledgedly said is reported second and third and forth hand... and in many cases invented and attributed to him.
If it was so important for him to spread his "gospel"... he should have stayed around.
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