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Struggles by Non-Christians
Why are atheists considered to be so dishonest?
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<blockquote data-quote="ephraimanesti" data-source="post: 56115910" data-attributes="member: 131538"><p>MY DEAR FRIEND,</p><p></p><p>Well, it is true that DENIAL can pertain to both spiritual and unspiritual viewpoints vis-a-vis the opposing viewpoint, for a Christian, whose "christianness" stems from a personal face-to-face relationship with God, this would involve a state of mental illness where one fantasizes an "invisible friend" residing in their heart with whom they have a running conversation through the day. It is one thing of DENY into non-existence something that another holds to exist, but it is quite another to DENY into existence something that does not exist.</p><p></p><p>In other words, you would have to say that Christians are are mentally ill due to their person interaction with and Entity Who does not exist. Is that your point?</p><p></p><p></p><p>It has been obvious since the beginning of time--the existence of religions seeking this "Ultimate Truth" stem back to the very beginning. Mankind is hardwired by its Creator to seek out said Creator.</p><p></p><p>Put another way by St. Paul, <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">"What may be known about God is plain to all, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--His eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse. For although they knew God, they neither glorified Him as God nor gave thanks to Him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools." </span>(Romans 1:19-21)</p><p></p><p>Think of it this way--IF GOD DID NOT, IN FACT EXIST, THERE WOULD BE NO ATHEISTS BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE NOTHING TO DENY BELIEVING IN.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Because if something is true it should be considered and accepted; if something is NOT true, it should be ignored and duck-backed.</p><p></p><p>What's the point of getting upset either way--either the person who spoke the word was trying to be helpful or he was a fool. </p><p></p><p></p><p>"All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God." "For God so loved the world that whoever believes in Him will not die but have eternal life." "Behold, all the old is done away with and all things have become new." etc.</p><p></p><p>My getting clean and sober--through God's infinite mercy and grace!--just allowed me to advance to the starting line at which you are standing. We still both have the same race to run.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Why do atheists/agnostics INSIST on blaming God for all the multitude of horrors in which our world abounds--when these horrors are perpetrated by human beings and their very existence is ample evidence of the deadly fruits of humans turning their backs on God and His Love? Far from being any "proof" that there is no God, it is ample proof that God exists but has been disdained and ignored--and the victims are paying the horrible price.</p><p></p><p>My Brother. at least consider this: The greatest horrors in the 20th Century--millions upon millions of our brothers and sisters brutalized and slaughtered--were perpetrated by atheistic societies. How can God be held responsible?</p><p></p><p><img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/old/bow.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":bow:" title="bow :bow:" data-shortname=":bow:" />ABBA'S FOOL,</p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">ephraim</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ephraimanesti, post: 56115910, member: 131538"] MY DEAR FRIEND, Well, it is true that DENIAL can pertain to both spiritual and unspiritual viewpoints vis-a-vis the opposing viewpoint, for a Christian, whose "christianness" stems from a personal face-to-face relationship with God, this would involve a state of mental illness where one fantasizes an "invisible friend" residing in their heart with whom they have a running conversation through the day. It is one thing of DENY into non-existence something that another holds to exist, but it is quite another to DENY into existence something that does not exist. In other words, you would have to say that Christians are are mentally ill due to their person interaction with and Entity Who does not exist. Is that your point? It has been obvious since the beginning of time--the existence of religions seeking this "Ultimate Truth" stem back to the very beginning. Mankind is hardwired by its Creator to seek out said Creator. Put another way by St. Paul, [FONT="Arial Black"]"What may be known about God is plain to all, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--His eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse. For although they knew God, they neither glorified Him as God nor gave thanks to Him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools." [/FONT](Romans 1:19-21) Think of it this way--IF GOD DID NOT, IN FACT EXIST, THERE WOULD BE NO ATHEISTS BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE NOTHING TO DENY BELIEVING IN. Because if something is true it should be considered and accepted; if something is NOT true, it should be ignored and duck-backed. What's the point of getting upset either way--either the person who spoke the word was trying to be helpful or he was a fool. "All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God." "For God so loved the world that whoever believes in Him will not die but have eternal life." "Behold, all the old is done away with and all things have become new." etc. My getting clean and sober--through God's infinite mercy and grace!--just allowed me to advance to the starting line at which you are standing. We still both have the same race to run. Why do atheists/agnostics INSIST on blaming God for all the multitude of horrors in which our world abounds--when these horrors are perpetrated by human beings and their very existence is ample evidence of the deadly fruits of humans turning their backs on God and His Love? Far from being any "proof" that there is no God, it is ample proof that God exists but has been disdained and ignored--and the victims are paying the horrible price. My Brother. at least consider this: The greatest horrors in the 20th Century--millions upon millions of our brothers and sisters brutalized and slaughtered--were perpetrated by atheistic societies. How can God be held responsible? :bow:ABBA'S FOOL, [SIZE="1"]ephraim[/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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