Who was Christ?

[GaelSong]

I was having a debate with a friend and she assured me that Jesus was the first christian.

Is this theologically correct?
Thanks

 

[OrthodoxyUSA]

In Nicence Theology Mary is often times refered to as the first Christian as she was the first to affirm her faith upon hearing the Annunciation of Christ from Gabriel.

Christ is Christ... Chirstian mean "little Christ" or even "subset of Christ", also "containing Christ".

Besides... Christ is God. And God can not be a subset of God, hence it would no longer be God.

Forgive me...

 

[JayJay77]

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[JayJay77]

Interesting. I'm not familiar with Nicence Theology. And wasn't Mary the one who said to the servant in John 2:5, "Do whatever [Jesus] tells you"? Maybe she was the first follower of Christ.

I agree, Jesus is not the first "Christian."

Another argument of the first Christian is who was the first ones "saved?" Some say when Jesus breathed on His disciples in John 20:22, He was giving them salvation for the first time. Hence, it would make the disciples the first Christians. What do you think?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

I was having a debate with a friend and she assured me that Jesus was the first christian.

Is this theologically correct?
Thanks

Jesus was the CHRIST and from the Tribe of JUDAH, which made Him also as Jew, so I would say yes. Whoever believeth in Him will be SAVED!.

http://www.scripture4all.org/

Zechariah 8:23 Thus sayeth YHWH-of Hosts: in-Days, the-those, which They-shall-take-fast/hold a-hem/wing, Ten Mortals/Men, from-all Tongues-of the-Nations.
And-They-take-fast/hold in-hem-of/ a-Man/, a-Judean/Y@huwdiy, to-say 'We-are-going with-You that We-hear Elohiym with-You'.

Mark 6:56 And the-where ever He into-journeyed into villages, the cities, the fields/hamlets, in their market-places, they place the ones being sick and they beside-called Him that if-even the hang-foot of the garment of Him they should be touching, and as manysoever as touch of Him/it, were Saved.

 

[JayJay77]

Not only was that hard to understand, but it doesn't prove the OP's point of whether or not Jesus was the first "Christian" or not.

It seems all you said was that Jesus is the Messiah.

Being the Messiah and being a Christian are two different things.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Not only was that hard to understand, but it doesn't prove the OP's point of whether or not Jesus was the first "Christian" or not.

It seems all you said was that Jesus is the Messiah.

Being the Messiah and being a Christian are two different things.

We are all "little messiahs" as Christ means "anointed" which would also make us "anointed ones".

Surely I don't have to go into detail on that.

 

[JayJay77]

But does that make Jesus a Christian?

If Christian means "little messiah" as you say, isn't that a part from "Messiah?" Why would you call the "Messiah" (Jesus) a "little messiah?" (Christian)

 

[Theophorus]

Christ is the author and finisher of faith, so theologically speaking, He is a Christian.

Patristic writers trace the Church to worship of the Trinity, so the angels would be the 1st "Christians". Some place the Church as being eternal and always existing as the Trinity.

 

[BreadAlone]

The Hebrews were saved based on the work Christ did, too..so weren't THEY the first Christians!?

Actually..going that far, you would have to say Adam and Eve were the first Christians, as they believed in God's promises in Genesis 3:15 to send someone to take their place as sinners.

 

[Stinker]

Acts 11:26 (King James Version)


26And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.
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This was years after the crucifixion of Jesus. Jesus was not a 'Christian' .

 

[GaelSong]

Thankyou for all your detailed and thoughtful replies.
I think my friend was theologically incorrect, although I respect her view.
NewDay

 

[thereselittleflower]

Not only was that hard to understand, but it doesn't prove the OP's point of whether or not Jesus was the first "Christian" or not.

It seems all you said was that Jesus is the Messiah.

Being the Messiah and being a Christian are two different things.

A Christian, by definition, is a human believer in Christ.

Christ does not believe in Himself, He has no need to believe in Himself, He has no need to be saved.

He IS Himself.

He is human and God incarnate. He is not a Christian.

He is whom christians put their faith in.


As such, Mary was the first one to do so. She was the first believer in Christ.

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[Benedicta00]

I was having a debate with a friend and she assured me that Jesus was the first christian.

Is this theologically correct?
Thanks

No. Mary was.

 

[Zecryphon]

But does that make Jesus a Christian?

If Christian means "little messiah" as you say, isn't that a part from "Messiah?" Why would you call the "Messiah" (Jesus) a "little messiah?" (Christian)

A Christian in my mind is defined as a person who has received knowledge that they have sinned against God and in response to this knowledge have called upon the name of Jesus to be saved from their sins and God's wrath. Jesus did not need to do this as He never sinned against God. So no, I don't think Jesus was the first Christian.

 

[Theophorus]

A Christian, by definition, is a human believer in Christ.

Christ does not believe in Himself, He has no need to believe in Himself, He has no need to be saved.

He IS Himself.

He is human and God incarnate. He is not a Christian.

He is whom christians put their faith in.


As such, Mary was the first one to do so. She was the first believer in Christ.

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I guess it may just be semantics, but the Church sees Moses and Job etc as Saints. Also, the angels are referred to as Saints, ie St. Michael. Saints worship the Trinity. which includes the hypostasis of Christ.

The Church is not dispensational.

 

[BreadAlone]

Like I said, Mary wasn't the first person to rely on Christ's sacrifice for her salvation..Adam and Eve were..

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

A Christian in my mind is defined as a person who has received knowledge that they have sinned against God and in response to this knowledge have called upon the name of Jesus to be saved from their sins and God's wrath. Jesus did not need to do this as He never sinned against God. So no, I don't think Jesus was the first Christian.

Hi. The greek word for Christ means "anointed" correct?
I would say Adam was the first Christ-ian as He was in essence "anointed with the breath of YHWH" which gave him life.
All about sementics.

Gene 2:7 And YHWH 'Elohiym is forming/yatsar the 'adam with soil/dust/`aphar from the ground/'adamah, and He is blowing/naphach in nostrils of him breath/n@shamah of living ones, and the 'adam is becoming to soul of living.

2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of the Age, this, blinds the minds of the faith-less, into no to be radiant the lighting of the Glad-Tidings of the glory of the Christ, who is the Image of the God.