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Who rules the temple mount?

Rafael

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How do the peope of Israel feel about the Dome of the Rock and the way that the Muslims govern the temple mount? For a while, I thought that 1967 and the Six Day war might have been a significant date to prophecy, but seeing that the temple mount is not really governed by the Jews at all has me thinking, not yet has the time of the Gentiles been fulfilled. John was told to not measure the court of the Gentiles where the Dome of the Rock now sits until the Gentiles time was finished at the end of the 42 months of years. Does Israel rule the temple mount today or not? A friend of mine just came back from Israel and said not.
 

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Thanks Andrew, yes, it does seem a strange arrangement that has me baffledas to where to place my finger on in the prophecies. I know that it is considered wrong by many Jews, the peace treaty of Sept. 1993 when Yitzack Rabin and Yasser Arafat signed a peace and security agreement at the White House was another "covenant of death" and a repeat like unto the one with the Assyrians, as denying a connection to the land nd signing any portion of the land away is forbidden and has no validity before God.

Is. 28:14 Wherefore hear the word of the LORD, ye scornful men, that rule this people which is in Jerusalem.
15 Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:

The promise to Abraham and his seed is a foundation of the faith of the elect and the Lord doesn't tolerate this again. Israel still has those in the headship that scorn the Messiah which is all part of the way it unfolds again, it seems, as the prophecies of God repeat. By allowing the Phillistines in as they have, they even go back and break the law God commanded them:

Deut. 12:2 Ye shall utterly destroy all the places, wherein the nations which ye shall possess served their gods, upon the high mountains, and upon the hills, and under every green tree:
3 And ye shall overthrow their altars, and break their pillars, and burn their groves with fire; and ye shall hew down the graven images of their gods, and destroy the names of them out of that place.
4 Ye shall not do so unto the LORD your God.
5 ¶ But unto the place which the LORD your God shall choose out of all your tribes to put his name there, even unto his habitation shall ye seek, and thither thou shalt come:
6 And thither ye shall bring your burnt offerings, and your sacrifices, and your tithes, and heave offerings of your hand, and your vows, and your freewill offerings, and the firstlings of your herds and of your flocks:
7 And there ye shall eat before the LORD your God, and ye shall rejoice in all that ye put your hand unto, ye and your households, wherein the LORD thy God hath blessed thee.
8 Ye shall not do after all the things that we do here this day, every man whatsoever is right in his own eyes.
9 For ye are not as yet come to the rest and to the inheritance, which the LORD your God giveth you.
10 But when ye go over Jordan, and dwell in the land which the LORD your God giveth you to inherit, and when he giveth you rest from all your enemies round about, so that ye dwell in safety;
11 Then there shall be a place which the LORD your God shall choose to cause his name to dwell there; thither shall ye bring all that I command you; your burnt offerings, and your sacrifices, your tithes, and the heave offering of your hand, and all your choice vows which ye vow unto the LORD:
12 And ye shall rejoice before the LORD your God, ye, and your sons, and your daughters, and your menservants, and your maidservants, and the Levite that is within your gates; forasmuch as he hath no part nor inheritance with you.
13 Take heed to thyself that thou offer not thy burnt offerings in every place that thou seest:
14 But in the place which the LORD shall choose in one of thy tribes, there thou shalt offer thy burnt offerings, and there thou shalt do all that I command thee.
15 Notwithstanding thou mayest kill and eat flesh in all thy gates, whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, according to the blessing of the LORD thy God which he hath given thee: the unclean and the clean may eat thereof, as of the roebuck, and as of the hart.
16 Only ye shall not eat the blood; ye shall pour it upon the earth as water.
17 Thou mayest not eat within thy gates the tithe of thy corn, or of thy wine, or of thy oil, or the firstlings of thy herds or of thy flock, nor any of thy vows which thou vowest, nor thy freewill offerings, or heave offering of thine hand:
18 But thou must eat them before the LORD thy God in the place which the LORD thy God shall choose, thou, and thy son, and thy daughter, and thy manservant, and thy maidservant, and the Levite that is within thy gates: and thou shalt rejoice before the LORD thy God in all that thou puttest thine hands unto.
 
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Thanks Andrew, yes, it does seem a strange arrangement that has me baffledas to where to place my finger on in the prophecies. I know that it is considered wrong by many Jews, the peace treaty of Sept. 1993 when Yitzack Rabin and Yasser Arafat signed a peace and security agreement at the White House was another "covenant of death" and a repeat like unto the one with the Assyrians, as denying a connection to the land nd signing any portion of the land away is forbidden and has no validity before God.

Giving up land that God has ordained for the Jews seems to be a no-no where the Bible is concerned. Whenever a nation or a leader forces Israel to give up land to the Palestinians, judgment tends to befall that nation in some form.

So I'm just waiting to see what happens to the current Israeli Prime Minister, who now wants his people out of the settlements, so that he can give 'back' that land. I wont be surprise if he gets assasinated.

The US is also under pressure to 'make peace' in the middle-east. Bush's peace plan wld prob require Israel to give 'back' land to the Palestinians, pull-out from the settlements etc. Again a big mistake.
 
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