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<blockquote data-quote="tonyt147" data-source="post: 73931225" data-attributes="member: 419396"><p>I guess I should have pay more attention to your op. I believe a contract is involve and it is the one God made with Abraham and Jesus of Nazareth. Galatians 3:16.</p><p></p><p>You get "initiated" into that contract by being grafted into Jesus of Nazareth. Romans 2:28-29. God send the spirit of his son Jesus of Nazareth into the initiate hearts and a vocal validation happens for all</p><p>to see. Galatians 4:6. The contract between the saved and God is now sealed. Ephesians 1:13. But it can be broken if the believer betray their master. 2 Timothy 2:11-13, Hebrews 6:4-8, Hebrews 10:26-31, 1 John 5:16.</p><p></p><p>So the only way to tell whether someone is living in this contract is by asking them how they personally related to Jesus of Nazareth. 1 Corinthians 12:3 Because only those who are led by the spirit of Jesus of Nazareth is considered a child of God. Roman's 8:14</p><p></p><p>What you are describing in your OP sounds like a "12 step recover program". It is based on moral living and communal love to sustain this kind of system. But God never said the flesh (the first birth of all human) can be perfected by any moral laws. Hebrews 7:18-19. God is looking for perfection in his children and you can only get that by getting the spirit of God's son Jesus of Nazareth to indwell your body. Because Jesus of Nazareth is perfect from the womb. 1 John 3:5. You keep his perfection by being led by him to love others and to do good works.</p><p></p><p>Do you believe spirits exists and that the human inner most part is more than organs? The greatest gift every human has freely gotten from God in our first birth is the image of God. Too bad that image is being tarnish by corrupt religion even in the name of Jesus of Nazareth in this generation. So you got people running around with a corrupted mind and a dead conscience. Scary huh?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tonyt147, post: 73931225, member: 419396"] I guess I should have pay more attention to your op. I believe a contract is involve and it is the one God made with Abraham and Jesus of Nazareth. Galatians 3:16. You get "initiated" into that contract by being grafted into Jesus of Nazareth. Romans 2:28-29. God send the spirit of his son Jesus of Nazareth into the initiate hearts and a vocal validation happens for all to see. Galatians 4:6. The contract between the saved and God is now sealed. Ephesians 1:13. But it can be broken if the believer betray their master. 2 Timothy 2:11-13, Hebrews 6:4-8, Hebrews 10:26-31, 1 John 5:16. So the only way to tell whether someone is living in this contract is by asking them how they personally related to Jesus of Nazareth. 1 Corinthians 12:3 Because only those who are led by the spirit of Jesus of Nazareth is considered a child of God. Roman's 8:14 What you are describing in your OP sounds like a "12 step recover program". It is based on moral living and communal love to sustain this kind of system. But God never said the flesh (the first birth of all human) can be perfected by any moral laws. Hebrews 7:18-19. God is looking for perfection in his children and you can only get that by getting the spirit of God's son Jesus of Nazareth to indwell your body. Because Jesus of Nazareth is perfect from the womb. 1 John 3:5. You keep his perfection by being led by him to love others and to do good works. Do you believe spirits exists and that the human inner most part is more than organs? The greatest gift every human has freely gotten from God in our first birth is the image of God. Too bad that image is being tarnish by corrupt religion even in the name of Jesus of Nazareth in this generation. So you got people running around with a corrupted mind and a dead conscience. Scary huh? [/QUOTE]
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