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Who here, would not do this?

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A person who seems to have a what is in my opinion, a very warped view about Christian conservatives that stand against militant sinners that go through great lengths to pervert the Scriptures to try and justify their lifestyles of sin, even to the point of saying that their sinful lifestyle choices are holy and gifts from God.
(and that is the limited picture of what they do)

But this person posted this:

When I was in college, I befriended a girl who had gotten pregnant out of wedlock. Most of her Christian friends labeled her a harlot and wouldn't have anything to do with her, especially when she didn't stop having premarital sex. I chose a different path, which was tolerance. She knew full well what my views of premarital sex were, so I didn't feel the need to bring it up more than once unless she asked. Instead, I concentrated on being a friend to her.

When she got horribly sick from hyperemesis, mono and strep all at once, I sat by her bedside and then took her to the hospital. When she talked about suicide, I urged her to live. When abortion was considered, I provided guidance. Ultimately, she chose to have the baby and give it up for adoption. She went through some hard times after that but eventually figured out how screwed up her life really was and decided to make a positive change--to go back to her roots of faith.

Where would she have been without me? God alone knows. But it is my belief that I won her back to God through tolerance and not condemnation.

Is this special and above and beyond anything that any one who loves the Lord would do? Who here would have condemned this girl? Which one of you would not do this? I'm not going to toot my own horn, but surely God has my record and my treasure. Give me a break. It seems that there is a disconnect and the person does not separate a militant sinner fighting to change the Word to suit them with someone who has stumbled into certain sins, and believes that those who fight the good fight of faith against those who would call what God has said is evil, not only good but holy, would not help one of those if they were on the side of the road. Of course we would! Who here hasn't sinned? Now let me ask you, who here wants to keep their sins? See. That is the difference. But there is not one person I can think of in this group, who would not help the most vile sinner you can imagine if they needed a hand.

So get in your prayer closet, and start practicing what you are preaching. As I said the people who preach love and forgiveness in this forum as well as the Liberal forum, are the LAST to do it unto conservatives or anyone who disagrees with them, so tinkle your cymbals on another corner because I for one am not buying it and don't cause me start naming names and start giving examples. The Holy Spirit has confirmed to you in your spirit even as you read this who you are.

Edit to clarify: the above last paragraph is NOT to the author of the above story, just FYI.
 

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I never claimed it was special. I posted it as an illustration of my style of witness. I do believe there are those here who would not have done it the way I did, especially since she was unrepentant of her premarital sex.

That is neither here nor there. Why are you calling me out? I freely and openly admitted I had a lot of misconceptions about this forum. I have publicly repented of that view. Why are you trying to beat me with it?
 
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That proves my point that your point of view of conservatives and fundamentalists is guided by your presuppositions.
That is the only reason that I quoted it, because it was a prime example of an erroneous idea.
If you didn't think what you did was special, and out of the ordinary for some or most CC's and Fundies
why would you post it as an example of what a "good Christian would do"?

If my post was addressed to you, I would have added your name to the quote. As you can see, I didn't.

But I used your presentation to show that "your style of witness" is no different than anyone else's that loves the Lord and your assumptive judgment otherwise, is not only offensive, but in not factual and is based on ZERO evidence. You have no evidence that given the circumstances as were relayed in your presentation that each one of us would not have acted in kind.

The last paragraph by the way, is not addressed to you or your presentation.

But don't worry, by the looks of it, you may not have to hear from me at all in here pretty soon.

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I never claimed it was special. I posted it as an illustration of my style of witness. I do believe there are those here who would not have done it the way I did, especially since she was unrepentant of her premarital sex.

That is neither here nor there. Why are you calling me out? I freely and openly admitted I had a lot of misconceptions about this forum. I have publicly repented of that view. Why are you trying to beat me with it?
 
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I'm sorry, but my experience tells me something different. Undoubtedly, most people here would do what I did. However there are some who are just like the friends who abandoned her in her time of need.

I'm not pointing fingers at anyone in particular--just stating human nature.

And I do know what fundies are like, having been one myself. Most of them are lovely people. (Most of my family are fundies, in fact.) I've never said anything different.
 
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It is human nature maybe, but it is the spirit of the Lord that operates in them who love Him that would
override and as far as I know there is NOT one person here that would not have done what you did.

Correct me if I am wrong Belinda but you have used the word "militant" to describe "the Conservatives" and that word is in the Fundy rules for membership, so you are most definitely talking about both, whether or not it was inadvertent, and guess what? I am a member of both forums
as well as others in this forum are! ;)
 
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Please read my posts as they are written and do not read into them, what isn't there. I have never had a problem with beating around the bush when I have something on my heart that I want to lay on the table.

The first section or 2/3rds of the OP is not addressed to Belinda P. It addresses the erroneous ideas in general that some have about conservative Christians.

Belinda's post which remained unnamed by me until she claimed it was a perfect example of that erroneous concept, and indicative of the holier -than -thou attitude some adhere to, when referring to conservative Christians. The point there was who in here would not do what she did?

There is not one member of this forum that I can think of who would not do the same.

The last paragraph is a call to the mirror that many of our members here as well as the Liberal forum in general have been begging for, who also think they are holier than thou, but are rather playing tinkling cymbals and sounding brass as they do not practice what they preach to members of their "own house" and again is not addressed to Belinda.

Charity begins in the home.

Hopefully you get it as it is intended now.


This sounds like something that is between y'all. I'm not sure why you made this thread Redeemed. :scratch:
 
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Believing you mean this in a sincere way, and not "tongue in cheek" I will respond accordingly.

My previous post (just prior to this one of yours) was in response to Lady Trekki. You of all people recognizing your own post would have had a valid reason, at first anyway, to believe it was about you personally, and would not have been because of pride or vanity.

Although it's true that part of it can be applied to you, where I address some of the problems with the ideas that your post reflects, the problem is much more widespread and goes beyond you or your personal ideas. Believe it or not
you are not alone in those ideas, as I have learned in these forums. Your post just happened to provide the perfect example in which I could make my appeal.

But as I emphasized several times, the post was not meant to single you out or I would have included your user name in the quote. I also made sure to make it known that my last paragraph absolutely 'was not addressed to the poster of that post I quoted', in hopes that when you saw it, recognizing your own post, you would know that it was not addressed to you. (or anyone else for that matter who may have remembered that you were the author). Hope that clears all of that up.

God bless.


I apologize for reading into it more than I should have. It probably was pride on my part to think it was about me.
 
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