Who did Moses chat with?

Frogster · Oct 23, 2011

JohnRabbit said:
yes, adam was the first to break the "ten"!

red answer: sin spread to all because the minds of adam and eve changed:

Genesis 3:7(NKJV)
7Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves coverings.

before that, they neither had a propensity for good, nor a propensity for evil. everyone after that, has taken on a mindset that has a propensity for evil.

blue response: you can think what you want, however, find anywhere where i've posted that supports what you think.

and no, those of the flood era did not have mosaic law because they weren't called to be kings and priest, a holy nation to God!

here you go again! why does it say adam sin was before THE LAW WAS GIVEN, you're forumla is not working, because the bottom denominator is faulty!

How could a guy in china have sin and death, even though he never broke a mosaic law, or did the transgression of adam?

read it>>>>>why did death reign, even though the guy in china did neither adam's sin, or a mosaic transgression? Why?

13for sin indeed was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not counted where there is no law. 14Yet death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those whose sinning was not like the transgression of Adam, who was a type of the one who was to come.

Do you understand the headship srgument here, and how if Adam had moses, it would totally ruin Paul's argument?

Frogster · Oct 23, 2011

YosemiteSam said:
Mood? Amazed! LOL...they can't even see how the ten were enjoined before Sinai...so the point becomes mute...oh wait, there was no law before Moses...i forget...oh wait...that means cain did not sin...Sodom and Gomorrah did not sin...oh wait...they don't see the error in that either...

Mood change? dumbfounded

sorry,,just to uplift u...

it says there was a time of no law, and adam sin was BEFORE THE LAW..

please advise, and elevate your mood.

YosemiteSam · Oct 23, 2011

LittleLambofJesus said:
What about the Bible do you think the SDAs do not understand or believe about?

I was just posting over the broad spectrum...Some like to call other SDA...it is easy to see in which direction that is pointed...I for one have never stepped into an SDA assembly...I don't think the majority of so called Christians even believe their bible.

LittleLambofJesus · Oct 23, 2011

YosemiteSam said:
I was just posting over the broad spectrum...Some like to call other SDA...it is easy to see in which direction that is pointed...I for one have never stepped into an SDA assembly...I don't think the majority of so called Christians even believe their bible.

Ahhh..ya might be on to something there

Originally Posted by YosemiteSam

Done here...no sense continuing

I have said that a few times myself ehehe

JohnRabbit · Oct 23, 2011

LittleLambofJesus said:
Ahhh..ya might be on to something there
I have said that a few times myself ehehe

for sure!

JohnRabbit · Oct 23, 2011

Frogster said:
here you go again! why does it say adam sin was before THE LAW WAS GIVEN, you're forumla is not working, because the bottom denominator is faulty!

How could a guy in china have sin and death, even though he never broke a mosaic law, or did the transgression of adam?

read it>>>>>why did death reign, even though the guy in china did neither adam's sin, or a mosaic transgression? Why?

13for sin indeed was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not counted where there is no law. 14Yet death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those whose sinning was not like the transgression of Adam, who was a type of the one who was to come.

Do you understand the headship srgument here, and how if Adam had moses, it would totally ruin Paul's argument?

all have sinned per romans 3:23 and sin is the transgression of the law per 1jn 3:4.

death reigned because sin was imputed.

remember, sin is not imputed where there's no law.

i understand that paul said he served the law of God, rom 7:25.

and i also understand that you're not going to answer me on heb 9:10!

from scratch · Oct 23, 2011

JohnRabbit said:
all have sinned per romans 3:23 and sin is the transgression of the law per 1jn 3:4.

death reigned because sin was imputed.

remember, sin is not imputed where there's no law.

i understand that paul said he served the law of God, rom 7:25.

and i also understand that you're not going to answer me on heb 9:10!

What do you mean by imputed? Sin wasn't charged until Sinai.

JohnRabbit · Oct 23, 2011

from scratch said:
What do you mean by imputed? Sin wasn't charged until Sinai.

i don't know? just seems like there was a lot of dying going on before sinai, is all.

i.e. the flood!

Frogster · Oct 23, 2011

JohnRabbit said:
i don't know? just seems like there was a lot of dying going on before sinai, is all.

i.e. the flood!

but why did sin and death go to a guy in china, who did not do adams sin, or a mosaic sin?

if you just reason it all out, u will understand the headship argument paul is making.

look at the reverse, did the one act of the second Adam, make us righteous, even though we did not do his one act of righteousness on the cross?

We had nothing to do with his one act..right?

yet righteousness came to us, who had nothing to do with his one act. right?

from scratch · Oct 24, 2011

YosemiteSam said:
I dont understand why they just don't believe their bible.

Who are you referring to? The SDA or those who left their organization? Maybe some one else not mentioned in my post.

from scratch · Oct 24, 2011

JohnRabbit said:
i don't know? just seems like there was a lot of dying going on before sinai, is all.

i.e. the flood!

I see you forgot what God said to Adam.

patience7 · Oct 24, 2011

JohnRabbit said:
yes, adam was the first to break the "ten"!

<snip>
I believe that Adam was given one commandment - let's see:

Gen. 1:9 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil. . . .And the LORD God took the man and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it. And the LORD God commanded the man saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

ONE commandment - which Adam didn't keep.

from scratch · Oct 24, 2011

JohnRabbit said:
i don't know? just seems like there was a lot of dying going on before sinai, is all.

i.e. the flood!

No wonder we have a difficult time communicating. You just throw words around and have no idea what they mean.

from scratch · Oct 24, 2011

Frogster said:
but why did sin and death go to a guy in china, who did not do adams sin, or a mosaic sin?

if you just reason it all out, u will understand the headship argument paul is making.

look at the reverse, did the one act of the second Adam, make us righteous, even though we did not do his one act of righteousness on the cross?

We had nothing to do with his one act..right?

yet righteousness came to us, who had nothing to do with his one act. right?

Excellent point.

JohnRabbit · Oct 24, 2011

patience7 said:
<snip>
I believe that Adam was given one commandment - let's see:

Gen. 1:9 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil. . . .And the LORD God took the man and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it. And the LORD God commanded the man saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

ONE commandment - which Adam didn't keep.

who did adam and eve listen to, God or Satan?

JohnRabbit · Oct 24, 2011

from scratch said:
No wonder we have a difficult time communicating. You just throw words around and have no idea what they mean.

how come it's got to be me!

what words?

JohnRabbit · Oct 24, 2011

from scratch said:
I see you forgot what God said to Adam.

being the good friend that you are, i know you're going to remind me.

Frogster · Oct 24, 2011

from scratch said:
Excellent point.

Thank you bubba.

87 degrees here today!

from scratch · Oct 24, 2011

JohnRabbit said:
how come it's got to be me!

what words?

You're the one who said you didn't know the meaning of a word you used.

from scratch · Oct 24, 2011

JohnRabbit said:
being the good friend that you are, i know you're going to remind me.

Nope!

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