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<blockquote data-quote="Monna" data-source="post: 75101115" data-attributes="member: 395087"><p><span style="font-size: 22px"> <span style="font-size: 15px">2 Timothy 3:16-17 </span></span></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>All scripture is</strong> given by inspiration of God, and is <strong>profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness</strong>; that the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.</p><p></p><p>1 Corinthians 10:11</p><p style="margin-left: 20px">These things happened to them as examples, and <strong>they were written for our instruction</strong>, on whom the ends of the ages have come.</p><p></p><p>If the two Bible quotations are the truth, consider the example of Nehemiah's prayer in Nehemiah 1:4-7</p><p style="margin-left: 20px">'When I heard these things, I sat down and wept. For some days I mourned and fasted and prayed before the God of heaven. </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Then I said: “Lord, the God of heaven, the great and awesome God, who keeps his covenant of love with those who love him and keep his commandments, let your ear be attentive and your eyes open to hear the prayer your servant is praying before you day and night for your servants, the people of Israel. <strong>I confess the sins we Israelites, including myself and my father’s family, have committed against you. We have acted very wickedly toward you. We have not obeyed the commands, decrees and laws you gave your servant Moses..."'</strong></p><p></p><p>Nehemiah was heard by God <strong>because</strong> he included himself in the collective sins of his ancesters. Jesus did not pick and choose who he identified with. In his baptism he identified with all sinners everywhere and through all time, though John was technically correct when he told Jesus "you have no need to be baptised." And when he was baptised God spoke “You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.” (Mark 1:11) He was not ashamed to be crucified with criminals, though the highest power in the land had said only hours before "I find nothing worthy of death in him." </p><p></p><p>There are sins of commission and sins of omission. If I have not actively taken a stand against wrong-doing of any kind, including discrimination of people of ethnicities different from mine, discrimination on the basis of gender, faith, handicap, income level, social standing or whatever, I am guilty of a "social debt" of sin - just as one of the two versions of the Lord's prayer says "Forgive our debts, as we forgive those who are indebted to us." Jesus continues to intercede for us, because we continue to live up to the requirements of both the laws of Moses and of love. When I point a finger at anyone else for wrong-doing I am very conscious that there are three fingers pointing back at me. </p><p></p><p>Not only so. James (ch 2:10) says "For whoever keeps the whole law and yet <strong>stumbles at just one point</strong> <strong>is</strong> <strong>guilty</strong> <strong>of</strong> <strong>breaking all</strong> <strong>of</strong> it."</p><p></p><p>And we are called to intercede for others too, following our Lord's example.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Monna, post: 75101115, member: 395087"] [SIZE=6][B] [/B][SIZE=4]2 Timothy 3:16-17 [/SIZE][/SIZE] [INDENT][B]All scripture is[/B] given by inspiration of God, and is [B]profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness[/B]; that the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.[/INDENT] 1 Corinthians 10:11 [INDENT]These things happened to them as examples, and [B]they were written for our instruction[/B], on whom the ends of the ages have come.[/INDENT] If the two Bible quotations are the truth, consider the example of Nehemiah's prayer in Nehemiah 1:4-7 [INDENT]'When I heard these things, I sat down and wept. For some days I mourned and fasted and prayed before the God of heaven. Then I said: “Lord, the God of heaven, the great and awesome God, who keeps his covenant of love with those who love him and keep his commandments, let your ear be attentive and your eyes open to hear the prayer your servant is praying before you day and night for your servants, the people of Israel. [B]I confess the sins we Israelites, including myself and my father’s family, have committed against you. We have acted very wickedly toward you. We have not obeyed the commands, decrees and laws you gave your servant Moses..."'[/B][/INDENT] Nehemiah was heard by God [B]because[/B] he included himself in the collective sins of his ancesters. Jesus did not pick and choose who he identified with. In his baptism he identified with all sinners everywhere and through all time, though John was technically correct when he told Jesus "you have no need to be baptised." And when he was baptised God spoke “You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.” (Mark 1:11) He was not ashamed to be crucified with criminals, though the highest power in the land had said only hours before "I find nothing worthy of death in him." There are sins of commission and sins of omission. If I have not actively taken a stand against wrong-doing of any kind, including discrimination of people of ethnicities different from mine, discrimination on the basis of gender, faith, handicap, income level, social standing or whatever, I am guilty of a "social debt" of sin - just as one of the two versions of the Lord's prayer says "Forgive our debts, as we forgive those who are indebted to us." Jesus continues to intercede for us, because we continue to live up to the requirements of both the laws of Moses and of love. When I point a finger at anyone else for wrong-doing I am very conscious that there are three fingers pointing back at me. Not only so. James (ch 2:10) says "For whoever keeps the whole law and yet [B]stumbles at just one point[/B] [B]is[/B] [B]guilty[/B] [B]of[/B] [B]breaking all[/B] [B]of[/B] it." And we are called to intercede for others too, following our Lord's example. [/QUOTE]
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