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we have learned more about God's creation in 5 centuries of science than in 5 millenia of the bible. Even if you can give a handful of predictions that the bible got sorta right, the fact remains that it hasnt given us a fraction of a percentage of the insight into the universe that science has. elementary school kids are taught as standard discoveries that are mere decades old. plate tectonics only goes back to the 60s.But, the Bible describes features discovered by modern science. A small analogy is the Mayan calendar.
Straight forward description. No twist, no distortion.
The one I am talking to Chalnoth is an example. There are better examples.
we have learned more about God's creation in 5 centuries of science than in 5 millenia of the bible. Even if you can give a handful of predictions that the bible got sorta right, the fact remains that it hasnt given us a fraction of a percentage of the insight into the universe that science has. elementary school kids are taught as standard discoveries that are mere decades old. plate tectonics only goes back to the 60s.
Then they must have believed the whales were more important than themselves.None of that "Husbands, love your wifes" stuff for me, is there?
Nope --- until love can be reduced to a formula and changed into machine language, only science matters, eh?
The Bible is not trying to teach science.
We do not recognize science embedded in the Bible is not the fault of the Bible. Science is a negligible part of the Bible. It does not matter even people never understand the scientific part of it.
All these only testify the deep wisdom contained in the Bible, so atheist not only have one fewer reason to attack it, but have one more reason to believe other things said in the Bible.
But, the Bible describes features discovered by modern science. A small analogy is the Mayan calendar.
But it makes no sense whatsoever when you compare it against the history of the universe. Sure, you can take a sentence here or a phrase there out of context and see how it kinda sorta sounds like it might be talking about something that actually happened. But once you look at the context, it's immediately clear that it is talking about something else entirely.
For example, when God said, "let there be light," the context makes it quite clear that the text is talking about simple illumination. By contrast, when the early universe first became dominated by radiation, the temperature would have been well in excess of ten quadrillion Kelvin (10^16 K). No simple illumination this, but a temperature the likes of which hasn't been seen since, a temperature hot enough to cause the nuclei of atoms to evaporate.
Furthermore, the text is talking about light specifically, but the energy at
Light is described in verse 3. Could the verse 2 describe the status before the inflation? How would you describe the condition with only one common word? Are the "two" words used in verse 2 ("tohuw" and "bohuw") helpful in the description? Are these two words the best words to use? If not, what other words could be used? If more than two words are needed, could you use 10 words to make a better description?
Originally Posted by juvenissun
I have no idea what you're talking about.That is fine. Then stop using humiliating words.
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Look, this creation myth makes perfect sense when you just read it simply, and accept that it was a primitive myth penned by a primitive people.
I don't think the Bible has anything to offer of value for morality. The moral values found in the Bible are at times horrendous, at times decent. I'm much better off just relying upon my own moral compass combined with logic.
To believe that Jesus is God has nothing to do with moral value.
So, you are right, the Bible does not promote morality.
if it isnt a science book then it cannot be used to attack any science. if it isnt a science book then dont look to it for facts about the universe. the bible is to be interpreted and made relevant to how one should live and perhaps to give insight into the spiritual realm but where it makes physical claims it is wrong wrong and more wrong.The Bible is not trying to teach science.
We do not recognize science embedded in the Bible is not the fault of the Bible. Science is a negligible part of the Bible. It does not matter even people never understand the scientific part of it.
All these only testify the deep wisdom contained in the Bible, so atheist not only have one fewer reason to attack it, but have one more reason to believe other things said in the Bible.
if it isnt a science book then it cannot be used to attack any science. if it isnt a science book then dont look to it for facts about the universe. the bible is to be interpreted and made relevant to how one should live and perhaps to give insight into the spiritual realm but where it makes physical claims it is wrong wrong and more wrong.
Ah, but what you do based on that belief has everything to do with morality.
No. The faith is not based on anything. Otherwise, it is not a faith.
Quoted for truth.
Thanks for stating this. I am glad to see one creationist here admit they do know what "faith" means.
No. The faith is not based on anything. Otherwise, it is not a faith.
I'm not talking about faith, I'm talking about actions. While I agree with you that religious faith is essentially baseless, it still inspires people to act -- for good or for ill.
In Christian, faith leads to action. Morality is one of the results.
In Buddhism, faith leads to inaction (so, there will be no good and no evil).
It appears to me that Juvenissun actually want to appear intelligent and insightful by posting short posts that cut straight to the chase. It's a pity he forgets that for making such posts, you need to think before typing.Wow -- a complete lack of knowledge about both Christianity and Buddhism.
Except when they name things after Eve, or delve into the power of prayer, or some other such discovery or area of testing.
Once in awhile, I notice that they even mention passages in the Scriptures when making one of their have-nothing-to-do-with-the-bible discoveries.
I sure hope so, and I wish I could say MISSION ACCOMPLISHED, but there's still a lot of work to be done.Do you know some people actually see the Bible as an integral part of western civilization...
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