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Heaven is wonderful, but this life on earth is far from "good", but it is not meant to be good, so it is challenging. Life is not that "good" for most people and if you get involved in helping people through this life, you share in their hard times which is not "fun", but is rewarding.Because life is good. Death deprives us of that good.
Heaven is wonderful, but this life on earth is far from "good", but it is not meant to be good, so it is challenging. Life is not that "good" for most people and if you get involved in helping people through this life, you share in their hard times which is not "fun", but is rewarding.
I'm not going to attribute it to all Christians, but many believe that God has Munchausen by proxy....but ventilators do?
I'm not going to attribute it to all Christians, but many believe that God has Munchausen by proxy.
He got the disease from natural law and God supernaturally brings good out of the bad, spiritual growth that will eventually help destroy evil forever.Ed1wolf, is his character building because of the disease?
And even if needing a ventilator does wonders for his character, how can it be just to afflict him so without his permission?
Where is God in the OP picture? Is he standing by, letting the medical staff fail, so he can build the patient`s character with a ventilator? I think not. I agree with those that are doing what they can to keep him off the ventilator.
Everything that happens to a believer is for their good and ultimately helps accomplish the goal of destroying evil forever in ultimate reality, ie the spiritual world.
So, having faith and a religion only, without a god experience, is worthless?Things are made so God requires faith to do a lot of things, so your jokes are not truth at all.
I experienced God, being a christian is not having faith and a religion only, that would be worthless.
Yes, read Romans 8:28Everything?
By befriending a believer and helping them you may learn to be saved and go to heaven but at the very least you can end up in the better parts of hell, but those that mistreat believers will go to the worst levels of hell besides the temporal judgements of the human criminal justice system that you may face.dm: So even if one beats up a believer and leaves him near death, it is for their good? Even if one carelessly exposes them to a virus that kills them it is for their good? Then why even try? If befriending a believer or defrauding him are equally for his good, how do life's actions even matter?
ah, your God is fine with a christian suffering in the ICU.By befriending a believer and helping them you may learn to be saved and go to heaven but at the very least you can end up in the better parts of hell, but those that mistreat believers will go to the worst levels of hell besides the temporal judgements of the human criminal justice system that you may face.
No, He is against it but sometimes it is necessary. Generally If you live according to God's moral teachings you will probably not ever be in an ICU.ah, your God is fine with a christian suffering in the ICU.
No, see above He would prefer that no one end up in the ICU.dm: Apparently, If I were to put him there, I could suffer in hell. If I were to help him get better, I could go to heaven. But your God might well prefer that he is in the ICU. That is what I am hearing you say.
If you do good just to get rewards you are probably not a Christian. Christianity is all about God, not us. But of course, since all humans are created in His image, by helping others you are glorifying God. You should do good because you love God not to get rewards.dm: Your religion seems to be all about "me". It seems to say that doing good things do not really help people. It just is a way to get rewards.
I help others because it helps them.
So the man in the ICU in the OP was getting what he deserved? If he was a good Christian he probably would not be there?Generally If you live according to God's moral teachings you will probably not ever be in an ICU.
Generally If you live according to God's moral teachings you will probably not ever be in an ICU.
Can god not spiritual grow someone that does not involve pain and suffering?Because suffering often brings spiritual growth and spiritual growth is how part of His plan to destroy evil forever works. A vending machine does not produce spiritual growth.
No, we all deserve hell. Apparently God felt he needed to suffer to grow spiritually, everyones growth is different and requires different things. Even great Christians suffer, Peter was crucified up side down and he was one of the greatest Christians and Paul was put in prison and eventually executed. I am referring just to a general principle that even applies to non Christians. If you obey His moral laws you are less likely to suffer.So the man in the ICU in the OP was getting what he deserved? If he was a good Christian he probably would not be there?
And that is why God is not in the picture?
Apparently God felt he needed to suffer to grow spiritually
Well there are many of God's laws that would help protect you from many different diseases. As far as COVID, God commands us to generally obey the government authorities so you should do what the experts say to prevent exposure. In addition, treating your body like the Temple of God as the bible says should cause you to eat healthy and not engage in unhealthy behaviors like smoking and drug use. And it should encourage you to exercise. Then obeying His laws about sex will prevent you from engaging in promiscuous sex thereby preventing you from getting STDs. Also, Christ's teaching about not living a life of violence will help avoid the ICU. All of these teachings can help prevent you from ever ending up in an ICU.If this is true,it would be a truly phenomenal discovery. There have been many ideas put forth to fight covid. If following gods moral teaching was virtually guaranteed to keep you out of the icu, Science could easily set up a test to verify what you say. If you truly have a solution that protected you from covid, everybody would be interested.
Are you just making this stuff up?
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