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<blockquote data-quote="createdtoworship" data-source="post: 74027085" data-attributes="member: 29008"><p>no sir, you cannot possibly know what is in my brain. It's impossible. When you say to someone that they don't know something, that is an unverified claim. They can be wrong about it 99 times out of a hundred, but there is always the chance they are correct. So again, you prove my point regarding all of this. Unverified claims is what atheists do best.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>since you claim my understanding is cartoonish, I figure I will call you on your bluff and show you how cartoonish evolution really is. </p><p></p><p>let me sum up evolution for you.</p><p></p><p>That fishy fish life swam until they ran out of water, climbed up on shore, developed lungs, grew legs, became titans of their time, frayed the scales til they became feathers, shrunk, climbed a tree, jumped off a branch, flew around, and became birds. Or for men- the fishy fish swam til they ran out water, climbed up on land, grew lungs and fur this time, scampered around at the feet of giant tweety bird T rexes, til they ditched walking on all fours for two legged transportation, climbed trees, jumped down from trees to build a fire, shed their fur, grew a bigger brain, and now believes we came from monkeys.</p><p></p><p>or this one:</p><p></p><p>that life sprang from an electrocuted mud puddle, that fishy fish sprouted legs and crawled up on shore, that those same fishy fish split off in two different directions- mammalian and reptilian, that those reptilian frayed their scales until they became feathers, shrunk down in size, climbed a tree, jumped off a branch, flew around and became tweety birds. Or that the mammalian family ditched the four legged transportation for two, grew a tail, climbed a tree, swung around from the branches until their tails fell off and they fell out the trees, built a fire, shed the fur, grew a beard, and now believe we came from monkeys.</p><p></p><p></p><p>again the mechanism that fails in evolution is that numerous rounds of micro evolution will apparently never change the animal into another animal. Micro evolution can do all sorts of things but they still reproduce within the same animal group. Once you have a change that is large enough to call it another animal, it would not pass down because the animal would not reproduce with it's own kind, so there is a logical flaw there as well. But you can find proof of this if you like, but it's much better to belittle and mock, than have honest debate. I am starting to understand atheists. And don't worry, your not alone in this. You are in good company with nearly every atheist I have talked to on here. Not to mean that it's honest or good.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="createdtoworship, post: 74027085, member: 29008"] no sir, you cannot possibly know what is in my brain. It's impossible. When you say to someone that they don't know something, that is an unverified claim. They can be wrong about it 99 times out of a hundred, but there is always the chance they are correct. So again, you prove my point regarding all of this. Unverified claims is what atheists do best. since you claim my understanding is cartoonish, I figure I will call you on your bluff and show you how cartoonish evolution really is. let me sum up evolution for you. That fishy fish life swam until they ran out of water, climbed up on shore, developed lungs, grew legs, became titans of their time, frayed the scales til they became feathers, shrunk, climbed a tree, jumped off a branch, flew around, and became birds. Or for men- the fishy fish swam til they ran out water, climbed up on land, grew lungs and fur this time, scampered around at the feet of giant tweety bird T rexes, til they ditched walking on all fours for two legged transportation, climbed trees, jumped down from trees to build a fire, shed their fur, grew a bigger brain, and now believes we came from monkeys. or this one: that life sprang from an electrocuted mud puddle, that fishy fish sprouted legs and crawled up on shore, that those same fishy fish split off in two different directions- mammalian and reptilian, that those reptilian frayed their scales until they became feathers, shrunk down in size, climbed a tree, jumped off a branch, flew around and became tweety birds. Or that the mammalian family ditched the four legged transportation for two, grew a tail, climbed a tree, swung around from the branches until their tails fell off and they fell out the trees, built a fire, shed the fur, grew a beard, and now believe we came from monkeys. again the mechanism that fails in evolution is that numerous rounds of micro evolution will apparently never change the animal into another animal. Micro evolution can do all sorts of things but they still reproduce within the same animal group. Once you have a change that is large enough to call it another animal, it would not pass down because the animal would not reproduce with it's own kind, so there is a logical flaw there as well. But you can find proof of this if you like, but it's much better to belittle and mock, than have honest debate. I am starting to understand atheists. And don't worry, your not alone in this. You are in good company with nearly every atheist I have talked to on here. Not to mean that it's honest or good. [/QUOTE]
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