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Earlier in life, way earlier I got into worship music. I even mentioned the name Jesus to a friend, and tried to enter a church. Was denied. I then continued to try and focus on Jesus and listen to worship music.
I was torched in the end, fell into oblivion.

I later blieved that christ has poured his spirit onto me years earlier almost making it impossible to not follow him because God was so loud in me it was impossible to mess up, other than sheer rigorous intentional disobedience.

I'm now trying to learn more about Jesus and call on him. It just feels a slap in the face the way things happened earlier in life. Why didn't he hear me when I called upon his name? And also tried with best of intentions to follow him. So many bad things happened after that.

Was I supposed to show some sign of humility, or maybe word my verbal callout different? It's driving me crazy lately.
 
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1Pe 4:12-13 Beloved, do not think it strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened to you; but rejoice to the extent that you partake of Christ's sufferings, that when His glory is revealed, you may also be glad with exceeding joy.

Sometimes we go through trials and difficulties. But God is there for us, even if we complain, although we should try not to complain.

James 5:11 Indeed we count them blessed who endure. You have heard of the perseverance of Job and seen the end intended by the Lord—that the Lord is very compassionate and merciful.

The LORD will not leave you in a painful situation forever, He plans good for you. But sometimes He wants to test what is in our hearts, and teach us to trust no matter what is happening in our lives. We need to learn trust even in the difficult times.
 
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Earlier in life, way earlier I got into worship music. I even mentioned the name Jesus to a friend, and tried to enter a church. Was denied.
Without knowing the specific details, this sounds like a thing that shouldn't have happened, but churches are full of flawed humans, who may not be good at welcoming new people, especially those who may be unfamiliar with their ways of being.
If you feel drawn to faith, it would probably be worth trying another congregation. I hope you have a better experience if you do.
 
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Sorry about this difficulty with being disappointed with God - if I read your post correctly.. It's understandable and a challenge.

We're not in heaven so as we live in a world where bad things will happen. It's pretty amazing about all the negative things that happened to Apostle Paul. In II Cor 11, he wrote a list of things that had happened to him including "Five times I received from [the hands of] the Jews forty [lashes all] but one; 25 Three times I have been beaten with rods; once I was stoned. Three times I have been aboard a ship wrecked at sea; a [whole] night and a day I have spent [adrift] on the deep;..." (Seems like God would have protected him of all people). Yet Paul wrote "...that I am very confident in you; that I am very proud of you; that you have filled me with encouragement; and that in spite of all our troubles, I am overflowing with joy." II Cor 7:4

Sorry that you were denied entrance into a church. But that's just a building. God accepts you. In fact, "The Lord thy God in the midst of thee is mighty; He will save, He will rejoice over thee with joy; He will rest in His love, He will joy over thee with singing.” Zep 3:17

Also, Leonard Cohen's "Hallelujah" includes references to King David and Bathsheba also Samson and Delilah. In Hebrew, hallelujah means to rejoice in praising The Lord.

Think in these times we need to deliberately turn all our focus on God. Pour out all our feelings to Him, forgive Him, others, and ourselves, and then let Yahweh heal us. It means spending more time with Him. Reading His Word more often - some favorites or some that speak to where you are now such as Psa 34:17-19; II Cor 12:9; I Peter 5:7). The end result is: Some Scripture will take on deeper meanings such as "In every thing give thanks:.." (I Thess 5:18). Plus we find Him to be our Rock again (Psa 71:3). In turn this fresh awareness causes us to be more thankful and grateful to Yahweh.
 
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Earlier in life, way earlier I got into worship music. I even mentioned the name Jesus to a friend, and tried to enter a church. Was denied. I then continued to try and focus on Jesus and listen to worship music.
I was torched in the end, fell into oblivion.

I later blieved that christ has poured his spirit onto me years earlier almost making it impossible to not follow him because God was so loud in me it was impossible to mess up, other than sheer rigorous intentional disobedience.

I'm now trying to learn more about Jesus and call on him. It just feels a slap in the face the way things happened earlier in life. Why didn't he hear me when I called upon his name? And also tried with best of intentions to follow him. So many bad things happened after that.

Was I supposed to show some sign of humility, or maybe word my verbal callout different? It's driving me crazy lately.
It's possible that the hardships you faced were not a sign of your failure or God's rejection, but rather a part of your unique spiritual journey. God’s ways are mysterious, and His plans for us often unfold in ways we do not anticipate. The Apostle Paul writes in Romans 8:28 that "in all things God works for the good of those who love Him, who have been called according to His purpose." This suggests that even in our trials, God is at work.
 
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Earlier in life, way earlier I got into worship music. I even mentioned the name Jesus to a friend, and tried to enter a church. Was denied. I then continued to try and focus on Jesus and listen to worship music.
I was torched in the end, fell into oblivion.

I later blieved that christ has poured his spirit onto me years earlier almost making it impossible to not follow him because God was so loud in me it was impossible to mess up, other than sheer rigorous intentional disobedience.

I'm now trying to learn more about Jesus and call on him. It just feels a slap in the face the way things happened earlier in life. Why didn't he hear me when I called upon his name? And also tried with best of intentions to follow him. So many bad things happened after that.

Was I supposed to show some sign of humility, or maybe word my verbal callout different? It's driving me crazy lately.
I have a simple Bible Study for you that I think will ease your heart on this matter.

In Job, God declares Job Blameless before Satan in Chapter 1 and Chapter 2. Most people assume that Job is about God 'Testing Job". God is the literal Truth. He specified that Job was Blameless. Testing occurs when one desires to understand the final sum of situational conclusion. I can't emphasize this next part, enough. God declared the sum total of the situational conclusion to Satan. He, God, declared Job Blameless.

You have two main Spiritual entities in Job that impact Job.

The Creator: Can read Hearts, Provides Life Itself and the very Substance of Life itself to all

The Creation: Judges by the flesh, Only alive by the very sustenance of the Creator.

Using the following verses and the following questions, do you see where oppression of Job came from by reading Job 1 and 2?

Job 1:8 Then the Lord said to Satan, “Have you considered My servant Job? No one else on earth is like him, a man of perfect integrity, who fears God and turns away from evil. (Many translations rightly take the "perfect integrity" root Hebrew and translate it to "Blameless".)

Job 2:3 Then the Lord said to Satan, “Have you considered My servant Job? No one else on earth is like him, a man of perfect integrity, who fears God and turns away from evil. He still retains his integrity, even though you incited Me against him, to destroy him without just cause.”

Here are the questions to answer while reading this:

1- Because God knows the heart of Job and declares Job blameless, when God names Job to Satan, who's heart did God draw the discussion of Job, from?

2- Because God, again declares Job blameless before Satan and ensures that Satan knows that God knows that Satan unjustly persecuted Job, again, who's heart is God drawing this discussion from? (Specification: Which one of the 3 desired to oppress Job)

A- Job's,
B- Satan's,
C- God's

3- From these 2 chapters of Job, who oppresses and desires the oppression of the Creation? The Creator or the Creation?
 
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Earlier in life, way earlier I got into worship music. I even mentioned the name Jesus to a friend, and tried to enter a church. Was denied. I then continued to try and focus on Jesus and listen to worship music.
I was torched in the end, fell into oblivion.

I later blieved that christ has poured his spirit onto me years earlier almost making it impossible to not follow him because God was so loud in me it was impossible to mess up, other than sheer rigorous intentional disobedience.

I'm now trying to learn more about Jesus and call on him. It just feels a slap in the face the way things happened earlier in life. Why didn't he hear me when I called upon his name? And also tried with best of intentions to follow him. So many bad things happened after that.

Was I supposed to show some sign of humility, or maybe word my verbal callout different? It's driving me crazy lately.
well people have different ideas of what "worship music" is ... the music will vary from church to church as to what they deem appropriate.

God has perfect timing ... perhaps you needed time for God to reveal to you what He wanted you to understand ... there is nothing we can do to appease God.

God did not need to see Jesus die in order to be atoned with us, but rather we needed to see Jesus die in order for our attitude to be atoned with His attitude. Christ did not suffer to appease an angry God but rather to appease an angry human race and the rest of the universe that had questions about His true character. God IS love.

Waiting on God can sometimes be frustrating and sometimes we don't understand His ways ... even so ... we trust He knows what is best for us. Amen.

It's a walk ... just keep walking with Him regardless of what may not be understood. Things are revealed ... often slowly.

Trust. Amen.
 
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Earlier in life, way earlier I got into worship music. I even mentioned the name Jesus to a friend, and tried to enter a church. Was denied. I then continued to try and focus on Jesus and listen to worship music.
I was torched in the end, fell into oblivion.

I later believed that christ has poured his spirit onto me years earlier almost making it impossible to not follow him because God was so loud in me it was impossible to mess up, other than sheer rigorous intentional disobedience.

I'm now trying to learn more about Jesus and call on him. It just feels a slap in the face the way things happened earlier in life. Why didn't he hear me when I called upon his name? And also tried with best of intentions to follow him. So many bad things happened after that.

Was I supposed to show some sign of humility, or maybe word my verbal callout different? It's driving me crazy lately.
I'm so sorry to hear about your sad story.
You are not alone. Millions are, and have faced the same collapse.
Some have stopped trying all together. Hundreds are now atheists.

The sad story repeats itself throughout the world.
The cause is the same, and there is only one solution.
However, the conditions differ with each person. If the condition is favorable, the solution can be applied. If not, the result will always be the same, or worse.

This probably sounds like a riddle, so I will explain.
So, you are standing on a platform, and suddenly it collapses. The platform is weak, even though it was thought to be strong.
The Titanic was thought to be unsinkable. It sunk.

The Cause
Millions of churches are seen as having God's approval. Do they.
Their teachings are seen as helping one get to God... but do they?
If I think I am being spiritually nourished, but I am being fed junk, what will eventually happen?
I will collapse, because I am spiritually malnourished.

That is the cause.
What's the solution?

The Solution
One needs to be fed spiritually - food at the proper time.
Matthew 24:45
“Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time?

That question... I want to know the answer. Why?
I want to receive this food, and at the proper time, because it comes from the master.
It will nourish me spiritually, because it's not watered down, adulterated junk, coming from an illegitimate source.

The Condition
One's heart condition must be right.
That person must want the truth. Not have itching ears for what they want to hear - the watered down adulterated teachings. 2 Timothy 4:3, 4
That person must have a heart that is moldable. Not hard like stone, unyielding. Ezekiel 11:19 A heart that allows them to be teachable. James 4:6; 1 Peter 5:5

If these conditions are right in that person's heart, they will be drawn by God, and be fed by the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time. John 6:44, 45; Matthew 24:45

If the condition of the heart is not right, that person will be fed by the lawless one accompanied by the working of Satan, whose work with of every wicked deception is directed against those who are perishing, because they refused the love of the truth that would have saved them, and God will send them a powerful delusion so that they believe the lie, in order that all those not having believed the truth but having delighted in unrighteousness should be judged. 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12

That is the condition.

The Result
The results will be either one of peace, or one of misery. Isaiah 65:13

If this is what you really sincerely long for - the solution, and its result, then go to God in sincere prayer, asking that he help you to get to know the truth - the unadulterated truth.
Pray about this continually Romans 12:12, until you get it, and remember to thank God afterwards. Colossians 4:2

I'm available if you need further assistance, or have any further questions.
All the best.
 
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Earlier in life, way earlier I got into worship music. I even mentioned the name Jesus to a friend, and tried to enter a church. Was denied. I then continued to try and focus on Jesus and listen to worship music.
I was torched in the end, fell into oblivion.

I later blieved that christ has poured his spirit onto me years earlier almost making it impossible to not follow him because God was so loud in me it was impossible to mess up, other than sheer rigorous intentional disobedience.

I'm now trying to learn more about Jesus and call on him. It just feels a slap in the face the way things happened earlier in life. Why didn't he hear me when I called upon his name? And also tried with best of intentions to follow him. So many bad things happened after that.

Was I supposed to show some sign of humility, or maybe word my verbal callout different? It's driving me crazy lately.
We are to be here for one another. To often we forget this. Your problems are mine and mine yours. That is the Spirit we are to carry through this life. Exhorting one another daily as we see the day approaching. Until we pull together as one, we will be only one through our hardships and the body of Christ will fall short in the ministry. In that we will not be as God would have us, working together through Him, that the world might believe. I need you and you need me to be the best us in Christ. Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together in His name, in one accord, in fellowship and prayer.’In His spirit and power until all come in unity of the faith. Prayers my friend Steven
 
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Thanks guys. I appreciate every single response, read through a lot of very encouraging stuff.

I've seen a very strange theme in my life, I pray for things to go away and get easier, instead, they remain only growing harder. Recently after a huge living situational transition, I saw amazing miracles right off the bat, but they only lasted a little while. The divinity I saw was more than i'd hoped for, but like I said. It did go away, thinking myself as to see that much divinity all the time would surely cloud my spirit.

I have visions a lot. This one frustrated me at first, I felt like I was so lowly in life, life I was so far behind, I saw myself at the absolute bottom of a pyramid, even lower. But I just try tried to think of of it how christ gave up his own divineness to walk a human life for the sake of others.
 
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You might want to keep a journal of the visions. Then add to the original writing as The Lord gives revelation.

Everything God does has a purpose.

"And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:" Acts 2:17
 
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Earlier in life, way earlier I got into worship music. I even mentioned the name Jesus to a friend, and tried to enter a church. Was denied.
Is it clear why they denied you? There are groups who are not into Jesus, and they might turn away someone who is a Jesus person. But Christian people will talk with you and get to know you.

So, I trust God to control how things go with a church. If they are Christian, He can guide them how to share with me. So, if my ministry is not accepted the way I was thinking it would be, I trust that God has His reasons and can do better than I was thinking. And so, with Christian people, I need to stay with submitting to God and see what He has me do.
I was torched in the end, fell into oblivion.
Well. Jesus is gentle and humble with us >

"'Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls . '" (Matthew 11:29)

He will guide us what He wants us to do. So, when my ministry burned up or I was rejected, I needed to answer to Jesus and do what He wanted. In my case, He did not want me to only impress people with my teaching, but He wanted my teaching gift to

*teach me how to love!*

In case you were new when you got torched and denied, it could be we need to mature before we are ready to minister to a whole church. For worship, you need the beauty of melody of God's love in your heart maturing so you spread this with your music, so that the worship is in love, not only talent and show.

And I see how it is good for us to spend time with people, so we can feed them our example plus benefit from how others can minister to us.
Why didn't he hear me when I called upon his name?
What can matter the most is that we hear Him and feed on His word. And get what Jesus is communicating through His word. Plus, share with His gentle and humble and kind people, and feed on their good example which can give you what words can not tell us.
And also tried with best of intentions to follow him. So many bad things happened after that.

Was I supposed to show some sign of humility, or maybe word my verbal callout different? It's driving me crazy lately.
Get to know His word. Every scripture can be used by God to help us find out how to become like Jesus and to love like Jesus.

No . . . I would say . . . there is no magic choice of words which will control God. But we need to simply submit to Him and discover what He does with us. Trust Him to change us into this the way He wants us.
 
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Where you go wrong is that you have a voice in your head with a particular theme that leads you to despair. The Way is already plainly laid out. You don't need God to tell you more. You need to understand what he has said.
I get that now. It's a harsh reality at times. I was deceived and it hurts a lot. Working through it with prayer..
 
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I get that now. It's a harsh reality at times. I was deceived and it hurts a lot. Working through it with prayer..
I will give you a hint that if you know the characters of YHWH and their individual meaning you will understand the Zeal of the LORD and He will fight for you. Brutally.
 
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