Where are we now in the book of Revelation?

shturt678s · Apr 22, 2014

Jerico Miles said:
he's not bound yet till the end of the tribulation.

I look at the "tribulation, the great one" more in the spiritual sphere of deceptive propaganda ergo we are nearing the end of the "Tribulation" where most appear to project this horrible time to some tine in the future?

How much more deceptive can it get?

Old Jack trying not to be governed by 'deception.'

btw Satan was bound at the precious Cross.

interpreter · Apr 22, 2014

John S said:
You are too old to pull that childish nonsense - or at least I would hope so. You know darn well that I wasn't calling the Book of Revelation nonsense. I was calling YOUR - and ANY Preterist - interpretation of it, Satanic Garbage.

Well, I think the futurist view is Satanic garbage.

John S · Apr 22, 2014

interpreter said:
Well, I think the futurist view is Satanic garbage.

The futurist view isn't banned from this forum. The Preterist view is.

parousia70 · Apr 22, 2014

John S said:
The futurist view isn't banned from this forum. The Preterist view is.

Not exactly.
A more accurate statement would be to say while the Hyper Futurist view isn't banned, the Hyper preterist view is. The classic, orthodox preterist view is not only welcomed, it is the view held by the majority of CF members.

John S · Apr 22, 2014

If the majority of CF members hold the view that The Book of Revelation has already happened, then may God have mercy on their souls.

Interplanner · Apr 22, 2014

It has many pastoral values for persecution.

The judgement of God is still coming at the 2nd coming.

Many things in the Rev about the end of the old covenant and coming of the new.

interpreter · Apr 22, 2014

John S said:
If the majority of CF members hold the view that The Book of Revelation has already happened, then may God have mercy on their souls.

May God have mercy on your soul because you are calling John a liar when he said the Revelation would begin unfolding "with speed'"

parousia70 · Apr 22, 2014

John S said:
If the majority of CF members hold the view that The Book of Revelation has already happened, then may God have mercy on their souls.

Well, that's not what I claimed, but whatever...

The Fact is the majority view is that the Revelation did indeed have direct application, in some fashion, to the original receivers of the book, regardless of how much of it applies to anyone else at any other time - For Sure, the folks who believe ZERO of Revelation has come to pass are in the MAJOR minority here (as they are in all of Christendom)...

In Revelation 3:3, the Glorified Christ, from heaven, promises the 1st century Christians at the Church of Sardis that His thief's coming would befall THEM:

Remember therefore how you have received and heard; hold fast and repent. Therefore if you will not watch, I will come upon you as a thief, and you will not know what hour I will come upon you.

Christianity has a SERIOUS problem if Christ failed to deliver on that promise to those people.

10s3r · Apr 22, 2014

Where are we now in the book of Revelation?

It seems the news of Islamic atrocities leading to the end is always suppressed.

Some of the recent ones that most Christians are unaware of is this...

What happened in Sadad is the most serious and biggest massacre of Christians in Syria in the past two years and a half 45 innocent civilians were martyred for no reason, and among them several women and children, many thrown into mass graves. Other civilians were threatened and terrorized. 30 were wounded and 10 are still missing. For one week, 1,500 families were held as hostages and human shields. Among them children, the elderly, the young, men and women. All the houses of Sadad were robbed and property looted. The churches are damaged and desecrated, deprived of old books and precious furniture What happened in Sadad is the largest massacre of Christians in Syria and the second in the Middle East, after the one in the Church of Our Lady of Salvation in Iraq, in 2010.

âLargest Massacre of Christians in Syriaâ Ignored | Raymond Ibrahim

And this...

Terrorists kidnap more than 200 Nigerian girls....

Terrorists kidnap more than 200 Nigerian girls

And I can't let the evening pass without exposing Islam's Latest Contributions to Peace.

Islam: Making a True Difference in the World - One Body at a Time

After all. What other peace religion would have it any other way.

Hows this for a weekly jihad report.

Weekly Jihad Report

Between Apr 12 - Apr 18 there were 42 Jihad Attacks in 19 countries with 5 "Allahu Akbars", with 327 Dead Bodies, and 607 Critically Injured.

The stats for last month...over 2,000 dead. Want the stats for 2013? Want more news?

And yet so many of you see no reason why Islam is the religion of the beast.

BLACKSHEEPPROPHECIES.COM - HOME PAGE

Jerico Miles · Apr 22, 2014

shturt678s said:
I look at the "tribulation, the great one" more in the spiritual sphere of deceptive propaganda ergo we are nearing the end of the "Tribulation" where most appear to project this horrible time to some tine in the future?

How much more deceptive can it get?

Old Jack trying not to be governed by 'deception.'

btw Satan was bound at the precious Cross.

Oh good, maybe you can tell everyone who the Antichrist and False Prophet are so there wouldn't be so much bickering around here.

ebedmelech · Apr 22, 2014

10s3r said:
Where are we now in the book of Revelation?

It seems the news of Islamic atrocities leading to the end is always suppressed.

And yet so many of you see no reason why Islam is the religion of the beast.

BLACKSHEEPPROPHECIES.COM - HOME PAGE

Yet another website of some of the most dysfunctional eschatoolgy there is!

Jesus came for all...He saves from all nations, peoples kindreds and tongues.

Just another reason to REALLY get into God's word and hear the Lord Jesus say:
Matthew 11
28 “Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest.

ALL means...all!!!

10s3r · Apr 22, 2014

ebedmelech said:
Yet another website of some of the most dysfunctional eschatoolgy there is!

Jesus came for all...He saves from all nations, peoples kindreds and tongues.

Just another reason to REALLY get into God's word and hear the Lord Jesus say:
Matthew 11
28 Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest.

ALL means...all!!!

Can't say I know what you're all about.

You're opinion is just that.

I've always said that it's easier to take a sliver out of the back side of a wild cat than it is to change the mind of a misled Christian.

Thanks for proving my point.

10s3r · Apr 22, 2014

Yet another website of some of the most dysfunctional eschatoolgy there is!

This is where I think we are at...

The First Seal - BLACKSHEEPPROPHECIES.COM

Adhmar · Apr 22, 2014

The first horsemen is always a real person. A white horse is Male Thumos. Alegory of the Chariot. Nebekenezer and Hernando Cortez were examples of the first horsemen. War, plague, and famine are stressor. They stress us so that we learn to listen to God while his chosen one brings God's wrath.

The spirit is pointing me to Putin. He has a bow. Nukes. He is conquering. Russia was spared Feminism, humanism, and a lot of other false idols that corrupt God's word by the Iron Curtain.

The big show starts in 2015. UN created in 1945 and usurps God's rightful place. UN is tower of Babel. America has become Babylon, poisoning the rest of the world through mass communication and spreading idolatrous ideologies. 1945+70=2015.

ebedmelech · Apr 22, 2014

10s3r said:
Can't say I know what you're all about.

You're opinion is just that.

I've always said that it's easier to take a sliver out of the back side of a wild cat than it is to change the mind of a misled Christian.

Thanks for proving my point.

Well thanks for proving mine also...because I always say what Jesus said:

For the Son of man came to seek and save that which was lost.

Just because you think something doesn't mean it is...find "World Trade Center" in the scriptures...I know...you can't!

So carry on...

10s3r · Apr 22, 2014

ebedmelech said:
Well thanks for proving mine also...because I always say what Jesus said:

For the Son of man came to seek and save that which was lost.

Just because you think something doesn't mean it is...find "World Trade Center" in the scriptures...I know...you can't!

So carry on...

Is that part of your hermeneutic?

Did you lose any friends on Sept. 11?

Remember reading this on the page.

"I was watching the north tower of The World Trade Center burn, when the south tower was hit, I and thousands of others saw a clear image of the face of Satan in the first billows of smoke that exited from the other side. The next day the image was on the covers of several magazines. I knew then that this was a significant event. That image can no longer be found on the internet for some reason.

I believe... September 11, 2001 authenticated the opening of the first seal and is symbolic of Holy War. Crossed swords are symbolic of conquest in Islam. Conquest is found twice in the first seal, and a large sword in the second seal."

Those things are also called signs.

Since I believe the passage should read as follows...

Islam, Babylon the Great, Mother of Jihadist and abominations of the earth.

I mentioned a few abominations of the harlot's offspring earlier.

Hey! It won't be long. If the events to come don't cause you to repent and change your mind....

I will remind you of this...

New Living Translation
Human pride will be humbled, and human arrogance will be brought down. Only the LORD will be exalted on that day of judgment.

http://www.blacksheepprophecies.com/index.html

ebedmelech · Apr 22, 2014

10s3r said:
Is that part of your hermeneutic?

Did you lose any friends on Sept. 11?

Remember reading this on the page.

"I was watching the north tower of The World Trade Center burn, when the south tower was hit, I and thousands of others saw a clear image of the face of Satan in the first billows of smoke that exited from the other side. The next day the image was on the covers of several magazines. I knew then that this was a significant event. That image can no longer be found on the internet for some reason.

I believe... September 11, 2001 authenticated the opening of the first seal and is symbolic of Holy War. Crossed swords are symbolic of conquest in Islam. Conquest is found twice in the first seal, and a large sword in the second seal."

Those things are also called signs.

Since I believe the passage should read as follows...

Islam, Babylon the Great, Mother of Jihadist and abominations of the earth.

I mentioned a few abominations of the harlot's offspring earlier.

Hey! It won't be long. If the events to come don't cause you to repent and change your mind....

I will remind you of this...

New Living Translation
Human pride will be humbled, and human arrogance will be brought down. Only the LORD will be exalted on that day of judgment.

BLACKSHEEPPROPHECIES.COM - HOME PAGE

You can try all you want to try and make your case.

The fact is there is spiritual wickedness period. To try and make it Islam or any other non-christian entity is nonsense because they are all part of the same deception.

So you're not reminding me of anything. The point I'm making is that your trying to make Islam the beast DEMONSRTATES what you don't know.

Time will reveal that.

jsimms615 · Apr 22, 2014

We are in the church age before the tribulation begins.

Lollerskates · Apr 22, 2014

iamlamad said:
We can easily read in Rev. 1 that John was alive. He wrote, "I John, in the tribulation."

Just as easily we can read in chapter 21 of a time at the very least a thousand years into the future from today. (I am ignoring those that can't see the 1000 year reign of Christ in our future. John clearly tells us "after the 1000 years.")

So with the first page nearly 2000 years ago, and the last page far into our future, it makes sense that somewhere in between is where we are now.

So my question, "WHERE ARE WE NOW?"

Can you pin in down between two chapters? Or even between two verses?

LAMAD

Soon to be third seal (global financial "collapse").

Think a light show is happening now with the tetrads...we haven't even made it to the trumps.

10s3r · Apr 22, 2014

ebedmelech said:
You can try all you want to try and make your case.

The fact is there is spiritual wickedness period. To try and make it Islam or any other non-christian entity is nonsense because they are all part of the same deception.

So you're not reminding me of anything. The point I'm making is that your trying to make Islam the beast DEMONSRTATES what you don't know.

Time will reveal that.

It's surprising that people just don't get it. Islam has been the worlds enemy since it's inception. They are the ones committing the abominations of the earth even on a daily basis and you can't see it.

The scriptural evidence is overwhelming that Islam is the religion of the beast. The two horned beast of Revelation 13 is symbolic of the Sunni and Shia sects of Islam. The locust of Rev. 9 has long been associated with Muslims. Their method of beheading and suicide bombers is in the book of Revelation. Muslim's hold, "captive silly women," The Koran just happens to have 6,666 verses in it and the right hand also happens to have religious significance in Islam. Habakkuk says God would raise up the Babylonians in the last days. Around the octagonal structure of the Dome of the Rock is a long classical Arabic inscription that says that God has no begotten son, thus denying that Jesus is the Son of God. God's"'Holy place" is already 'occupied' (sits upon) by the Islamic harlot! It's located on Mount Moriah which is at the center of Jerusalem's seven mountains.

And that's not even half the evidence!

And just by coincidence these are the images at the entry of the abomination.

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