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I understand your thought, but I'd not quite go there. As I believe God existed adn then created space/time, I think there was a place before the universe existed. Nowever, we have a very limted view of the spiritual work that God existed in for eternity ... maybe those words spiritual world God existed in is even a bad way of talking about it. I do believe God was someplace and everywhere before the universe tho.It's a meaningless question. Space exists because the universe exists, not the other way around. Without spacetime, there is no where.
I was referring to physical space. God's existence doesn't require physical space, or a universe. Physical space doesn't exist apart from the universe. There could be "spiritual locations", but speculating about that is pointless. "Before" the universe, God was all there was - you can't even assign him to a location because location was not existent.I understand your thought, but I'd not quite go there. As I believe God existed adn then created space/time, I think there was a place before the universe existed. Nowever, we have a very limted view of the spiritual work that God existed in for eternity ... maybe those words spiritual world God existed in is even a bad way of talking about it. I do believe God was someplace and everywhere before the universe tho.
Thanks. Sometimes, it's easy to forget what Christ was really like given the Christians we see today.TheFathersDaughter said:Also, Fed, I love the quote in your signature.
I was referring to physical space. God's existence doesn't require physical space, or a universe. Physical space doesn't exist apart from the universe. There could be "spiritual locations", but speculating about that is pointless. "Before" the universe, God was all there was - you can't even assign him to a location because location was not existent.
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I agree with you on that Fred.
Let us begin: First we have to clearly define a definition for the Universe. Is the universe the all inclusive over arching phenomina that includes both physical and metaphysical concepts, or one of them or neither. To me, and I would offer that the Universe is a term we use as the highest definitional order of physical material. The justification for this is follows, in either faith tradition, Religious and Secular, both argue that their is a conception beyond or before the Universe. The secular mindset argues for a big bang, but argues are pre-existing conception, "Before the Big-Bang". If we can all agree to accept that the Universe is a term that defines physical things, we can move on to phase 2.
Where is the Universe?
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