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Hello, I think hell was created or prepared when lucifer became satan or devil...Matthew 25:41..."Then He will say to those on His left, depart from me, you who are cursed, into eternal fire prepared for devil and his angels.Does anyone know when hell was created? Bible reference would be fantastic if you don't mindTyvm!
The Lake of Fire is not being used yet. For it says that all who are now in Hell will be thrown into the Lake of Fire.Hello, I think hell was created or prepared when lucifer became satan or devil...Matthew 25:41..."Then He will say to those on His left, depart from me, you who are cursed, into eternal fire prepared for devil and his angels.
Okay thanks for pointing that out.The Lake of Fire is not being used yet. For it says that all who are now in Hell will be thrown into the Lake of Fire.
"And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire.
This is the second death.' Rev 20:14
Hell (Hades) is the waiting cell for those awaiting the final judgment.
Some would say that the idea that, with all the Jesus went through, most people will still enter a hell, would be diminishing the cross. Therefore those who dont believe in the hell of torment, would have a better chance of giving the Cross all power........as opposed to those who believe it will save a few....
2 Peter 2:4 For if God did not spare the angels when they sinned, but cast them deep into hell, placing them in chains of darkness to be held for judgment;
This verse has "deep", but the KJV has "down".
re post 73:
Too much error to even try to correct it in this thread, and apparently not the willingness needed first either.
Suffice it to realize angels never took human women as their wives.
Start thus with a truth, instead of a false premise, and keep seeking the truth, to find it.
Hello, I think hell was created or prepared when lucifer became satan or devil...Matthew 25:41..."Then He will say to those on His left, depart from me, you who are cursed, into eternal fire prepared for devil and his angels.
The Abyss, the Bottomless Pit, Tartarus, Hades, Torment, Hell, Gehenna, and the Lake of Fire | All Power to the Lamb
Paul and the OT show that -others have no hope.
the dead in Christ will rise - but others - have no hope
This part at the site shown above is supposed to be by Enoch and tells how
some in one area of hell will only be in the lake of fire for a specific amount
of time, but others there for eternity to be tormented.
I'm only trying to show that hell was believed to be down - under the earth.
Revelation shows that only those with their names found written in the book
of life can enter into the city.
oops, no. Not "one must have the truth before finding the truth"
nor "The PHarisee had the truth"
is true.
Without the truth, don't expect to find the truth,
There are no oops. You already have the truth....so you are supposed to dismiss anything that sounds contrary to it. My words are not for you.Again oops?, no.
It is not that "all truth will be revealed by the one who is Truth",
rather it is hidden as He Says, from the educated ones.... (and others?) ....
and revealed as it is His Good Pleasure So to DO, "to little children"....
Non sequitur. (doesn't follow from topic nor from Scripture as stated here)
So by your own words.....Adam had the power to affect everyone without their knowledge or consent. And the cross/Christ requires knowledge and consent to affect anyone.....else it would have no affect at all...I do believe that Adam's actions doomed everyone to hell, because his action brought everyone out of the garden of Eden, symbolic of the presence of God. The Psalmist declared this truth grievingly as he says "Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin my mother conceived me." -Ps. 51:5
And to answer your second part, if the cross of Christ had not been there, there would be no power indeed. But as it stands and is a part of His glorious Gospel. It is the power of God!
The problem with this argument is that if one really understands the full magnitude of what the atonement entailed (the full weight of the wrath of God is the "hell of torment") and that's precisely what Jesus endured.
Adam brought in the age of hell.....the notion that we much all suffer this fake because of his action.That fact impressed upon the few that are chosen (out of the many that are called) makes them more apt to give the cross all the power, precisely because not only do they believe in the hell of torment; but they are profoundly convicted that they, the few that are chosen, deserve that hell of torment, just as much as the many that are called.
Why do you believe that one should take hell seriously? Would not taking Heaven, or the work on the cross seriously, be good enough?
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