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When the Nixon impeachment investigation started, only 17% approved....

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But today, at the start of the Trump impeachment investigation, 55% of Americans approve, according to a CBS poll.

In other impeachment investigation polls, those who favor investigation grew by 10% and 7% in one week....

Of course, there were reasons...outside of Watergate, Nixon was doing a fairly creditable job. Establishing diplomatic relations with China. Ending the Vietnam War. Actually supporting universal health care. He was smart, and capable, so it took some convincing for Americans to accept that he was also treacherous.

So perhaps 55% already believe in the investigation of Trump because he has none of Nixon's capabilities and a much longer laundry list of offenses--and there have already been 89 indictments and 8 convictions in his short administration.

But the point is that, from 17%, as the truth became evident, more and more were convinced he should be impeached. Starting from a threshold of 55%, this is not good news for Trump---but it is certainly good news for Americans.
 

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The impeachment will probably not succeed, partly because Congress and Senate won't get the numbers required.

However, if Trump keep on going with the trade war, he might not win 2020.

The senate is of course unlikely, but I really don’t get why people seem to think the Dems couldn’t get a majority for impeachment in the House. The president is proveable corrupt, why would the Dem majority protect him?
 
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We've come to a place of such partisan divide in this country that someone like Donald Trump not only got elected but is unlikely to be impeached despite his corruption and incompetence because "haha liberal tears."

Lord, have mercy.
 
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The senate is of course unlikely, but I really don’t get why people seem to think the Dems couldn’t get a majority for impeachment in the House. The president is proveable corrupt, why would the Dem majority protect him?
He will be impeached by the House ...
 
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What is imperative is that the progress and results of the House investigation must be made available to the public, unless it is classified---and the House will determine whether it is classified, not Trump.

We have already been warned that McConnell will be able to manipulate and obstruct the trial--just as he manipulated and obstructed the Kavanaugh confirmation hearings. If we leave it up to the Senate to inform the public, the public will never learn a fraction of the truth.

I feel sure that the House will be able to publicize its findings, because that's how Nixon resigned. The public knew what transpired BEFORE the information went to the Senate, and Republican Senators, seeing the handwriting on the wall, were ready to convict.

It is sad that the Attorney General is a Trump puppet, along with the Senate majority leader. This is how dictatorships begin. We are trying to use our checks and balances, but we will have to bypass these spineless puppets to do our duty.
 
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You do realize that Nixon was not impeached don't you?

...yes, Nixon was rational enough to quit before he could be impeached. Of course if Nixon had today's Senate, it's possible he may have had 2nd thoughts.
 
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...yes, Nixon was rational enough to quit before he could be impeached. Of course if Nixon had today's Senate, it's possible he may have had 2nd thoughts.

Nixon was hardly rational.
 
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...like I wrote, he was rational enough.

And as I wrote he was not impeached. His reasons or rationality hardly matter
or relate to the point I made originally. When we are discussing % of people opposed to impeachment and subsequent possibilities that a President will be impeached, a former President's resignation is not germane. Additionally, why should it matter how many people are for impeachment or against impeachment ? Shouldn't the criterion be whether impeachment is justified or not by actions taken by the person being impeached?
 
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Additionally, why should it matter how many people are for impeachment or against impeachment ?

On that we agree. Each member of Congress should evaluate the evidence and vote, in accordance with the US Constitution.
 
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On that we agree. Each member of Congress should evaluate the evidence and vote, in accordance with the US Constitution.

Unfortunately I doubt they do that anymore. I suspect that the majority of them are memebrs of Congress second and political partisans first.
 
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You forgot to mention Clinton or Obama.

They are both too good looking to remind one of Nixon. AFAIK Obama did not commit a crime or act unhinged in any way.
 
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And as I wrote he was not impeached. His reasons or rationality hardly matter
or relate to the point I made originally. When we are discussing % of people opposed to impeachment and subsequent possibilities that a President will be impeached, a former President's resignation is not germane. Additionally, why should it matter how many people are for impeachment or against impeachment ? Shouldn't the criterion be whether impeachment is justified or not by actions taken by the person being impeached?

You'd think that but the Senate, from what is reported, the Republicans will only support impeachment if the voters are demanding it. It appears it doesn't matter, to the Senate Republicans, what Trump does so long as their constituents aren't threatening to vote them out.
 
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