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When is the Onset of Personhood?
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<blockquote data-quote="EdwinWillers" data-source="post: 60006210" data-attributes="member: 256061"><p>[facetious]Sure, why I was asking an unborn just the other day if he'd reached self-awareness yet and he gave me this big lecture about disturbing him in the womb (I think I woke him up from a nap)...[/facetious]</p><p></p><p>The obvious issues here I would think are several:</p><p>1) What constitutes "self-awareness"</p><p>2) What is the test for "self-awareness" with say, a baby in the womb?</p><p>2) What about the living who aren't "self aware"? Coma? Sleeping??</p><p>4) Why, among those outside the womb, does "self awareness" seem to come and go, depending on certain circumstances? And why is the [temporary] departure of "self-awareness" allowed as a defense in a criminal case ("I wasn't aware I'd shot the man...")?</p><p></p><p>What do we do? Should we give them the ole "pinch me to see if I'm awake" test and if they holler 'ouch!' deem them "self aware?"</p><p></p><p>No, this tack is fraught with a plethora of irreconcilable issues.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EdwinWillers, post: 60006210, member: 256061"] [facetious]Sure, why I was asking an unborn just the other day if he'd reached self-awareness yet and he gave me this big lecture about disturbing him in the womb (I think I woke him up from a nap)...[/facetious] The obvious issues here I would think are several: 1) What constitutes "self-awareness" 2) What is the test for "self-awareness" with say, a baby in the womb? 2) What about the living who aren't "self aware"? Coma? Sleeping?? 4) Why, among those outside the womb, does "self awareness" seem to come and go, depending on certain circumstances? And why is the [temporary] departure of "self-awareness" allowed as a defense in a criminal case ("I wasn't aware I'd shot the man...")? What do we do? Should we give them the ole "pinch me to see if I'm awake" test and if they holler 'ouch!' deem them "self aware?" No, this tack is fraught with a plethora of irreconcilable issues. [/QUOTE]
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