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When is abortion - homicide, when is murder of a human not homicide?
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<blockquote data-quote="BobRyan" data-source="post: 76397103" data-attributes="member: 235244"><p>The OP is showing us that we already have cases with criminal charges specific to killing the baby are filed for those who kill unborn babies as part of killing the mother or wounding the mother</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think a lot of people share your wish - but as we see in the examples of charges filed for killing the unborn baby - not all wishes get granted in every case.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>To your point we all prefer more calming terms like "remove the pregnancy" and "remove all the tissue of the pregnancy" when possible as "nice terms" for what is really being done there.</p><p></p><p>What is more the argument essentially gets down to "yes but did they kill the unborn baby with a bullet or with a knife - because one of them would be homicide - and the other would not if done by a professional in that field"</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Good question. Does the value of human life rest solely with the "Majority 5-4 vote" at the level of Supreme Court - year-by-year?</p><p></p><p>In communist countries human life is defined by the government to have very little value under certain circumstances.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Good point. The moral ethics of the situation does not change depending on "how many people favor the wrong idea" as we saw in the case of Nazi Germany. lesson learned.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Precisely - a relative morality dictated by the "nice" vs "not-so-nice" state of government is fickle.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BobRyan, post: 76397103, member: 235244"] The OP is showing us that we already have cases with criminal charges specific to killing the baby are filed for those who kill unborn babies as part of killing the mother or wounding the mother I think a lot of people share your wish - but as we see in the examples of charges filed for killing the unborn baby - not all wishes get granted in every case.:) To your point we all prefer more calming terms like "remove the pregnancy" and "remove all the tissue of the pregnancy" when possible as "nice terms" for what is really being done there. What is more the argument essentially gets down to "yes but did they kill the unborn baby with a bullet or with a knife - because one of them would be homicide - and the other would not if done by a professional in that field" Good question. Does the value of human life rest solely with the "Majority 5-4 vote" at the level of Supreme Court - year-by-year? In communist countries human life is defined by the government to have very little value under certain circumstances. Good point. The moral ethics of the situation does not change depending on "how many people favor the wrong idea" as we saw in the case of Nazi Germany. lesson learned. Precisely - a relative morality dictated by the "nice" vs "not-so-nice" state of government is fickle. [/QUOTE]
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