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When do you give up?

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My husband is an alcoholic. He has been one throughout the whole five years that we've been together, although I didn't realise it at first.

He also suffers from depression. Whether or not this causes him to drink, or if alcohol caused the depression in the first place, I don't know. He was taking anti-depressants and drinking at the same time for a while, but he has stoped taking anti-depressants now. When he went off the anti-depressants (without medical supervision), this resulted in many suicide threats, a week-long drinking binge (funded but taking out loans against nearly everything of value we own at pawnbrokers), him threatening to kill me and nearly hitting me (while I'm pregnant, by the way), and me sending him packing to his parents.

We have a two-year-old daughter who really doesn't need to see any of it. As I mentioned, I'm pregnant (four months), and am going through so much stress because of my husband, that I really believe it is through the grace of God alone that I haven't miscarried.

He spent a week or so with his parents, calls and says he had an epiphany, he's sorry for everything, he'll go to AA and relationship counselling, never drink again, etc.. (later I found out that he and his father had had a fight, resulting in him knocking his father out twice, so he couldn't actually stay there anymore). I let him come back, and a week later it starts again. He has to have a drink to deal with the stress of everything/boredom/because his life is cursed.

He has basically ruined us financially, largely due to alcohol. I now have a thorough knowledge of how pawnbrokers work, whereas before I met him I really had no idea what they did. Whenever I've tried to budget it just doesn't happen, because I don't allow for several drinking binges. One time all I had left was money I'd put aside for my daughter's playgroup. When I wouldn't give it to him for beer, he punched the computer. It makes me sick, that I've needed a new pair of shoes for a year, that is the same price as one of his drinking sessions. But I've been putting it off because someone needs to think of bills. We've been nearly evicted ten times, honestly I would have evicted us we've been messing the landlord around so much.

Drinking isn't the only thing money gets spent on. He had a sports car that got smashed a few years ago (because he was too drunk to drive it home, his cousin had to do it instead, he grabbed the wheel from her and it smashed. But it was her fault because if she'd really been able to drive she should have been able to handle someone doing that :sigh: ). He also loves radio controlled gliders/planes/helicopters.

So any bit of money we've gotten that could possbily have gone towards paying debts, every tax refund, has gone towards restoring the car, and buying various model aircraft. Yes, in the plural. Because they crash, it's the nature of the hobby. Some have been destroyed that way, one he set fire to because the kit he'd made it from was faulty (he was drunk when he did this), and the latest was a helicopter. He sold his sports car to pay for the helicopter, it crashed, could have been repaired for a few hundred dollars, but instead he smashed it to bits. And it was worth thousands of dollars.

He has gotten us stuck with several hire-purchase contracts that we really don't need, that he didn't tell me about before he bought the things. Apparently we desperately needed a $5,000 LCD TV.

He isn't working at the moment. He never really worked consistently, because he hated being a slave to the government, blah blah blah, but now he's not working at all. And we are seriously living in the negative. Now he;s finally realising how much debt we are in. His solution? Since we're in so much debt anyway, he thought he'd go out last night and spend the rest of our money at various pubs and clubs. About $200. Money that would have paid off some of our debts at least. He has done this twice before.

Also, we were scheduled to have relationship counselling this week. The money for that was spent on alcohol. That pretty much sums up our relationship, doesn't it?

That's why I'm on the computer typing this at 5am. I actually started at 3:30am (when he finally arrived home). I'm four months pregnant, exhausted, have had a very restless night's sleep, worrying about him being dead, in hospital, in jail, because he was drink-driving the whole night. When he finally got home, I couldn't even try to go back to sleep, I had this urge of angry adrenaline.

I'm not looking for an excuse to leave. Because quite frankly, that's looking like a pretty good option right now, and I don't need an excuse to do so. I'm looking for a reason to stay. Is there hope? Has anyone persevered with it all and had everything work out okay?

I know I can't change him. But I keep hoping and praying that he will want to change himself. That he will take some responsibility for his life, and stop blaming everyone and everything for his problems. And he really needs to see a counsellor.

I probably sound cold and unfeeling, but I've had enough. I've done compassion, and supportive, now I'm onto exasperation and numbness. I don't even know if I love him anymore. I am so overwhelmed by anger and disappointment that any love that may be there is overshadowed by these feelings. My child, and child-to-be deserve some stability in their lives, and I do too. I need to know that they will have a roof over their head, and food on the table.

Thank you for listening to my rant, I am so tired it probably makes no sense at all. Any prayers, words of wisdom, and comfort would be greatly appreciated.

God Bless.

Kristy
 

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Oh my gosh it has to be your own peace of mind first. You need to now think about you,your life and daughter. Enough is enough. I feel you need to seek another place to live while he gets into a program of some kind. Something needs to change. I'm praying right now that answers will be come easier than expected.
 
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KristyAnne said:
My husband is an alcoholic. He has been one throughout the whole five years that we've been together, although I didn't realise it at first.

He also suffers from depression. Whether or not this causes him to drink, or if alcohol caused the depression in the first place, I don't know. He was taking anti-depressants and drinking at the same time for a while, but he has stoped taking anti-depressants now. When he went off the anti-depressants (without medical supervision), this resulted in many suicide threats, a week-long drinking binge (funded but taking out loans against nearly everything of value we own at pawnbrokers), him threatening to kill me and nearly hitting me (while I'm pregnant, by the way), and me sending him packing to his parents.

We have a two-year-old daughter who really doesn't need to see any of it. As I mentioned, I'm pregnant (four months), and am going through so much stress because of my husband, that I really believe it is through the grace of God alone that I haven't miscarried.

He spent a week or so with his parents, calls and says he had an epiphany, he's sorry for everything, he'll go to AA and relationship counselling, never drink again, etc.. (later I found out that he and his father had had a fight, resulting in him knocking his father out twice, so he couldn't actually stay there anymore). I let him come back, and a week later it starts again. He has to have a drink to deal with the stress of everything/boredom/because his life is cursed.

He has basically ruined us financially, largely due to alcohol. I now have a thorough knowledge of how pawnbrokers work, whereas before I met him I really had no idea what they did. Whenever I've tried to budget it just doesn't happen, because I don't allow for several drinking binges. One time all I had left was money I'd put aside for my daughter's playgroup. When I wouldn't give it to him for beer, he punched the computer. It makes me sick, that I've needed a new pair of shoes for a year, that is the same price as one of his drinking sessions. But I've been putting it off because someone needs to think of bills. We've been nearly evicted ten times, honestly I would have evicted us we've been messing the landlord around so much.

Drinking isn't the only thing money gets spent on. He had a sports car that got smashed a few years ago (because he was too drunk to drive it home, his cousin had to do it instead, he grabbed the wheel from her and it smashed. But it was her fault because if she'd really been able to drive she should have been able to handle someone doing that :sigh: ). He also loves radio controlled gliders/planes/helicopters.

So any bit of money we've gotten that could possbily have gone towards paying debts, every tax refund, has gone towards restoring the car, and buying various model aircraft. Yes, in the plural. Because they crash, it's the nature of the hobby. Some have been destroyed that way, one he set fire to because the kit he'd made it from was faulty (he was drunk when he did this), and the latest was a helicopter. He sold his sports car to pay for the helicopter, it crashed, could have been repaired for a few hundred dollars, but instead he smashed it to bits. And it was worth thousands of dollars.

He has gotten us stuck with several hire-purchase contracts that we really don't need, that he didn't tell me about before he bought the things. Apparently we desperately needed a $5,000 LCD TV.

He isn't working at the moment. He never really worked consistently, because he hated being a slave to the government, blah blah blah, but now he's not working at all. And we are seriously living in the negative. Now he;s finally realising how much debt we are in. His solution? Since we're in so much debt anyway, he thought he'd go out last night and spend the rest of our money at various pubs and clubs. About $200. Money that would have paid off some of our debts at least. He has done this twice before.

Also, we were scheduled to have relationship counselling this week. The money for that was spent on alcohol. That pretty much sums up our relationship, doesn't it?

That's why I'm on the computer typing this at 5am. I actually started at 3:30am (when he finally arrived home). I'm four months pregnant, exhausted, have had a very restless night's sleep, worrying about him being dead, in hospital, in jail, because he was drink-driving the whole night. When he finally got home, I couldn't even try to go back to sleep, I had this urge of angry adrenaline.

I'm not looking for an excuse to leave. Because quite frankly, that's looking like a pretty good option right now, and I don't need an excuse to do so. I'm looking for a reason to stay. Is there hope? Has anyone persevered with it all and had everything work out okay?

I know I can't change him. But I keep hoping and praying that he will want to change himself. That he will take some responsibility for his life, and stop blaming everyone and everything for his problems. And he really needs to see a counsellor.

I probably sound cold and unfeeling, but I've had enough. I've done compassion, and supportive, now I'm onto exasperation and numbness. I don't even know if I love him anymore. I am so overwhelmed by anger and disappointment that any love that may be there is overshadowed by these feelings. My child, and child-to-be deserve some stability in their lives, and I do too. I need to know that they will have a roof over their head, and food on the table.

Thank you for listening to my rant, I am so tired it probably makes no sense at all. Any prayers, words of wisdom, and comfort would be greatly appreciated.

God Bless.

Kristy

Hi Kristy,

Sorry that you are going through all this. I am a recovering alcoholic/addict.(8 years sober) Forgive me for being blunt but I don't think that your husband wants help. You need to get out, run while you can and take care of those children and yourself..You do not have to put up with this...NO ONE DOES....
He kind of sounds like my ex-husband..we divorced 13 years ago, and he is still drinking...
Your husband is only thinking about himself right now and nobody else..He needs help bad but I doubt if he thinks that he does....May God bless you and your children...PM me if you need to talk...:hug:
 
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Oh my gosh it has to be your own peace of mind first. You need to now think about you,your life and daughter. Enough is enough. I feel you need to seek another place to live while he gets into a program of some kind. Something needs to change. I'm praying right now that answers will be come easier than expected.
Dear Kristy - I believe that you should RUN right now - it is not a healthy environment for you, your daughter and your unborn child - I will be praying for you all - Please let us know what you have deceided, as we all care - Hedi
 
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Let me preface what I am about to say with this. With God all things are possible. I'm compassionate to your plea. You asked for a reason to stay, so I'm going to do my best to show you why.

It is a shameful statistic that divorce is higher among people professing to be Christians then in the secular world. It goes to show the state of our church today,

Paul tells us not to leave our spouse if he/she is an unbeliever because we may be the vessel which God uses to deliver to them salvation. Right now you have a golden opportunity. You're in so dark a place that if you let your light shine it would be seen for miles and miles. It may be very hard to stay, but you'll have so many more blessings and crowns in heaven. And if you make your life a statement for Christ, he'll either come around or ask you to go. And when he askes you to go, if it came that, your witness would reflect on your child soon to be children mightily.

What am I purposing? A plan of action. God will see your faith and reward it in its time. You reach for the promises. You lay hold of them and don't let go until you see them before your very eyes! How? Well, first keep praying, and I'm joining with you in that. Second, we need to get your husband saved. I have recently learned that he that Jesus sets free is free indeed. I'll share with you the doctrine of sancification whenever you'd like. I'd rather do it over a chat, im, phone, or some way we can communicate real time. Back to the subject of his salvation. Not only is it the greatest thing any of us have ever received, but it is the most necessary. Imagine you were married to Saul and you became a believe. He would threaten to put you to death but could never actually do it. Would you leave the chief of all sinners (by his own admission)? Would you knowing that in just a little time he'd become Paul? To be a Pharisee you had to be married. Paul's wife probably left him once he turned to Christ. This is what we are trying to do here. Make your witness so strong either he has to leave you or he has to repent.

Find time to talk with him. If you can't get him sober, write him a letter and after he comes home drunk and falls asleep put it on his bedside table. Get him thinking about his death. Let him know that you are concerned for him. Not only that he may die with the countless others that die while drinking, but that when he dies he'll be going to a place that you as his wife don't want to see him go. Ask him if he is a good person in his own eyes? If he says yes follow this course: Have you ever lied? What does that make you? Stolen? Even if it was small a piece of bubble gum or bmw. then you are a? Used the Lord's name in vain? Blaspheme. His conscience (if he's not drunk) will do the work. The law is perfect, converting the soul. Ask him if God judged him by the 10 commandments would he be innocent of guilty. he has to say yes. If not reiterate IF judged by the 10 commandments. Ask him if he would go to heaven or hell. If he says heaven ask why? when he says something along the lines of my God wouldn't judge me like that tell him he just broke the 7th commandment. Idolitary or making a god to suit himself. The God of the Bible is a God of justice. He must punish all murders, theifs, liars, etc. He says no liar, murder, or theif will enter heaven. Now or if he says no ask him if that concerns him? if he says yes, deliver to him the salvation message and talk to me about sanctification. if no, I would ask him if he would sell his eyes for 10 million dollars. 100 million. Well, your soul is worth infinately more than your eyes. Jesus said if you eye offend you pluck it out. It is better to enter heaven without eyes than to go to hell seeing.

In everything, you want to set the example. Make yourself pure and do righteousness. Give God every opportunity to work on his heart, and no opportunity to show your at fault. It is possible, and you can do it. If you want to talk over the phone or real time im or chat let me know. I'd love to encourage you and share things with you more indepth. But I am always weary of posting extremely long posts.

The note I would like to finish on. God will judge him for everything he does. Indeed God has already shown His judgment to get you guys in this far. You job as a wife is to love your husband and be his helper. You can't love a blind man without begging and pleading with him that he is walking toward a cliff and needs to right his way. Again, ask me anything you want here or we can talk by any means you desire.

Keep the faith! Hold on to hope! Most importantly never lose sight of love! God will show you through if you give Him no other choice.That means trust in His promises. Consider that the suffering of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the far exceeding weight of eternal glory they give us. I can't express to you in words how deep I feel for you and your situation. You can do it and let me help you however I can!
 
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