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They seem a moderate group. Conservative to a European is moderate or Liberal in the US.
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Well, the last time I checked the Christian Democratic party was still very alive and active in Europe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_democracy
No, they don't. Not one of the Continuing Anglican churches ordains women. That was one of the founding principles of the movement and all these churches have remained true to it.There are conservative Anglicans, but even they allow female priests, I believe.
The ACNA is hardly the most conservative branch, but that aside, this church, which is actually a federation, hasn't decided on whether or not to ordain women. Several of the member bodies within ACNA absolutely forbid it.If the ACNA the most conservative branch, then from where I sit, Anglicans have lost their footing and succumb to worldly thinking, which most of Anglicanism did many moons ago...
No, they don't. Not one of the Continuing Anglican churches ordains women. That was one of the founding principles of the movement and all these churches have remained true to it.
The ACNA is hardly the most conservative branch, but that aside, this church, which is actually a federation, hasn't decided on whether or not to ordain women. Several of the member bodies within ACNA absolutely forbid it.
However, ACNA includes four former Episcopal dioceses that left TEC to join ACNA, bringing a handful of women priests with them. They are grandfathered in, but they are few in number and I don't think any of them are serving as rectors (pastors).
I write this as someone who loves the BCP and partakes of the service often but I do have a question, when did the theology of Anglicanism turn into Progressivism? Recently an Iranian Anglican traveled to North American and could not find an Anglican that was not teaching immorality or at least supporting sin so he became a Presbyterian. He said the Anglicans in the Middle East, Asia and Africa are giving up martyrs but the Anglican in North American are only teaching immorality and persecuting believers. He was shocked at how unchristian the Anglicans in NA are compared to the Anglican being harassed in Iran.
For my Calvinist and Reformed brothers and sisters...what happened to them?
Yours in the Lord,
jm
PS: I asked in the Anglican forum and one poster was pretty emotional about it and attacked the man who fled the liberalism in Anglicanism.
Recently an Iranian Anglican traveled to North American and could not find an Anglican that was not teaching immorality or at least supporting sin so he became a Presbyterian
But if ordaining women is your litmus test of "going astray" then we probably need to go back to first principles and outline where the boundaries of acceptable faith and practice are
Not to make this unnecessarily contentious, but the resistance to women's ordination was what it was because theI have more in common with the Sydneysiders myself, but I agree with that: there are many things that are far more important than ordination (or not) of women.
I have more in common with the Sydneysiders myself, but I agree with that: there are many things that are far more important than ordination (or not) of women.
And one must remember: the average Anglican is black, conservative, and lives in Africa. The USA has only 3% of Anglicans (probably even less now), and Australia/NZ only 6%.
Not to make this unnecessarily contentious, but the resistance to women's ordination was what it was because the Anglo-Catholics (some of them) in the American and Canadian churches believed that ordaining ineligible candidates (women) compromised the validity of the sacraments and perhaps also the lines of Apostolic Succession.
I think I know what you mean, but it was mainly Anglo-Catholic clergy who led the walkout from TEC in the late 1970s over this issue. Now that you mention it, however, many or most of the several thousand laypersons who launched the Continuing Anglican movement were not Anglo-Catholics.That wasn't the situation in Australia, where the debate was quite different. But, as I said, there are many more important issues, like belief in the Trinity or in the Resurrection.
I think I know what you mean, but it was mainly Anglo-Catholic clergy who led the walkout from TEC in the late 1970s over this issue.
Yes--and Canada. The founders of the Continuing Anglican movement, that is to say, who left The Episcopal Church and the Anglican Church of Canada, mainly over this issue (women's ordination).I assume you're talking about the USA here.
There was a shift at the Lambeth Conference in 1930. That was the year they did their first limited acceptance of contraception. The very first denomination to do so. Of course something progressive had to be brewing before that and many would have resisted progressive trends, and are still resisting even today.when did the theology of Anglicanism turn into Progressivism?.
It wasn't a complaint but a lament, a deep sorrow, a mourning over the current state of Anglicanism in the West.
Yours in the Lord,
jm
PS: Historically speaking Baptists have been Reformed. Please see the Confession in my sig, it lines up with the Westminster in almost every area.
I was almost going to object, but then I got to those final three words ("in the West"). You acknowledge, I take it, that most of the Anglicans of the world are not in similar straits, so what we're saying is that Christianity in general is in trouble--in the West, that is.It wasn't a complaint but a lament, a deep sorrow, a mourning over the current state of Anglicanism in the West.
Not always. The original Baptists were Arminian. I am a Calvinist-leaning Baptist myself, though.
I was almost going to object, but then I got to those final three words ("in the West"). You acknowledge, I take it, that most of the Anglicans of the world are not in similar straits, so what we're saying is that Christianity in general is in trouble--in the West, that is.
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