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When did “consciousness” enter the Universe?

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I don't think there is any question about evolution other than whether or not it is consciously directed.
For me-
No evidence
No explanatory power
The grim spectre of infinite regress
Adds up a question not worth asking.
 
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Akita Suggagaki

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For me-
No evidence
No explanatory power
The grim spectre of infinite regress
Adds up a question not worth asking.
Because you can have no answer that fits your model?
 
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Because you can have no answer that fits your model?
Who said model?

No, because it makes sense, and it works.

It applies to many things.

Religion /metaphy not, as they say incl.
 
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If you have no objection, if someone at some point asks me what 'deepity' means, I'll direct them to this post.

And by the way, the link you gave to the pdf is a link to your hard drive. Or at least the one on your office computer. You might want to delete it as I think it includes your name.
 
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Thanks. This is all Google drive I cannot get used to.
 
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"... there seems to be no reason why Life should evolve out of material elements or Mind out of living form..." Just goes to show that starting from an admission of ignorance of the subject is unlikely to be productive, particularly when you use it to shoehorn in unsubstantiated suppositions. A lack of understanding doesn't mean that 'anything goes' and your pet idea must be right.

A wise man would understand that. It's known as 'garbage in, garbage out'.
 
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"... there seems to be no reason why Life should evolve out of material elements or Mind out of living form..."
As an aside, you may find interesting, (and in keeping with your suggested process definition of life), this paper, which was recently published in the Journal of Molecular Medicine:
The Multiple Paths to Multiple Life
Its sort of an architecture modelling type way of coming up with a life definition which, interestingly, ends up including viruses. I'm not sure I agree with their idea of life arising mulitple times, without some kind of tangible evidence though .. (although its possible).
 
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