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<blockquote data-quote="TheReasoner" data-source="post: 65564830" data-attributes="member: 104245"><p>Christians come out ahead in censuses in large part because of the cultural heritage. Furthermore, other countries have longer and far more deeply engrained christian culture and heritages than Scandinavia. Yet none of those come close to the same level of equality, humanitarian dedication and compassion as Scandinavia does, judging by the statistics.</p><p></p><p>We are still left with the most areligious countries on the planet being the most deserving of being said to represent the gifts of the spirit which christians are supposed to embody. Moreover, if you pop by statemaster.com and check statistics related to these fruits of the spirit you will find an inverse correlation within the US with respect to faith density and the fruits. The more religious and conservative a state is, the less it embodies the fruits christians are supposed to embody - statistically speaking. Why is that? And why does the same trend appear internationally?</p><p></p><p>Sure, correlation does not imply causation, but the claim that more faith equals more goodness appears to not be supported by this correlation. If this were so then at the very least countries with longer and more deeply felt connections to christianity should manifest a significantly more prominent fulfilment of the fruits, on average. This is not the case. Why not?</p><p>Here's a guess: Christianity is just another man-made religion with no basis in a divinity or spiritual reality. Jesus may have been real, and his teachings (Not Paul's) are quite good. For the most part, the whole 'hate your family' thing (Luke 14:26) is not too good if taken literally. But that he had some good ideas does not mean the religion is true, lock stock and barrel.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TheReasoner, post: 65564830, member: 104245"] Christians come out ahead in censuses in large part because of the cultural heritage. Furthermore, other countries have longer and far more deeply engrained christian culture and heritages than Scandinavia. Yet none of those come close to the same level of equality, humanitarian dedication and compassion as Scandinavia does, judging by the statistics. We are still left with the most areligious countries on the planet being the most deserving of being said to represent the gifts of the spirit which christians are supposed to embody. Moreover, if you pop by statemaster.com and check statistics related to these fruits of the spirit you will find an inverse correlation within the US with respect to faith density and the fruits. The more religious and conservative a state is, the less it embodies the fruits christians are supposed to embody - statistically speaking. Why is that? And why does the same trend appear internationally? Sure, correlation does not imply causation, but the claim that more faith equals more goodness appears to not be supported by this correlation. If this were so then at the very least countries with longer and more deeply felt connections to christianity should manifest a significantly more prominent fulfilment of the fruits, on average. This is not the case. Why not? Here's a guess: Christianity is just another man-made religion with no basis in a divinity or spiritual reality. Jesus may have been real, and his teachings (Not Paul's) are quite good. For the most part, the whole 'hate your family' thing (Luke 14:26) is not too good if taken literally. But that he had some good ideas does not mean the religion is true, lock stock and barrel. [/QUOTE]
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