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I love that term.cdesign proponentsists 101.
Here's the kicker though:That's ok, he probably never read anything you wrote, either.
Negative.
DI and ICR get on my nervous system, but at least their hearts are in the right place.If it weren't for tricks, they'd have no tricks at all.
Have your questions in the OP been answered?If you have nothing useful to contribute then, please don't clutter this thread.
Yup ... read Genesis 3.Well, at least you admit confusion starts in the beginning.
Have your questions in the OP been answered?
If so, what's the problem?
If not, are you saying there's [now] 86 posts of clutter?
Suit yourself.You have a habit of endlessly derailing threads. Last time you did it to one of my threads, it got locked for that very reason.
So I'll ask you kindly take a hike, thanks. Perhaps you can find science on your journey.
You seem to be exhibiting the typical Creationist mix of woeful ignorance of evolution combined with an outdated view of ID.
"I am a not a product of lucky changes" is a fairly typical Creationist trope indicating a poor understanding of even the most basic principles of evolution i.e., random variation (DNA changes) combined with natural selection (successfully producing offspring) lead to evolutionary change.
The evolution of the eye has been well understood for over a century. Heck - even Darwin had this one broadly worked out in 1859 when he published 'The Origin of Species". You can find explanations of eye evolution in most basic evolution primers. Here's Wikipedia's version Evolution of the eye - Wikipedia
Intelligent Design was sent to the scientific dustbin in 2005 when a major court decision (Kitzmiller vs Dover) established that it was not a science. The judge also made it clear that ID was little more than Creationism dressed up in a lab coat to create a false 'sciencey' impression.
Irreducible complexity also took a beating in the same court case:
"Professor (Michael) Behe's claim for irreducible complexity has been refuted in peer-reviewed research papers and has been rejected by the scientific community at large." (from Judge Jones' summation)
The now infamous irreducibility of the bacterial flagellum argument has been shown to be scientifically incorrect along with the concept of irreducible complexity itself. What Behe failed to consider was that components with a specific function could combine, or be modified, to form a new part with a new (or enhanced) function.
ID/Creationists have yet to define 'design' in a way applicable to the evolution argument after decades of trying.
May I suggest that you familiarise yourself with the history of ID and its dishonest attempts to sneak Creationism into US schools through the back door.
You might also spend a little time in getting to understand evolution before embarking on this type of critique from ignorance.
OB
And the theory of evolution agrees with you.And yet God exists and interacts with people, and people is ignorant of that, also the evolution of the eye is understood?, lies, they make stories of how could have become, sure a photosensitive cell just 'appeared' just where the animals needed it? i don't think so.
So-called "genetic algorithms" based on random variation and selection are widely used in industry to design new products.Evolution couldn't create humans the same as a simple process or animals can't either create complex things, you would think there would be by now a computer process to create something, not even the most advanced ai can create good stuff, and you tell me little lucky changes yes lucky even evolutionists say luck is involved, and natural selection can create anything meaningful?.
This is the creation/evolution forum. There are theists, including Christians, on both sides of the issue. If you want to discuss theism vs. atheism there is another forum for that.do me favour, the deluded ones here are the evolution people thinking God was not involved and evolution alone could create us. God is crazy stuff to people, but is not so crazy at all once you understand a bit.
And the theory of evolution agrees with you.
So-called "genetic algorithms" based on random variation and selection are widely used in industry to design new products. This is the creation/evolution forum. There are theists, including Christians, on both sides of the issue. If you want to discuss theism vs. atheism there is another forum for that.
Evolution doesn't create anything "from scratch." It always builds on pre-existing systemsThose algoritms take predefined solutions to choose from they don't create all from 'scratch' like evolution needs to do.
No, just like evolution they create variety by adding random small changes.Those algoritms take predefined solutions to choose from they don't create all from 'scratch' like evolution needs to do.
No, just like evolution they create variety by adding random small changes.
We know how mutations work. We know that mutations make changes. That's where the new variety comes from... then selection comes from the better option being more successful.
Evolution doesn't create anything "from scratch." It always builds on pre-existing systems
No doubt it does. Scientists know differently. Are you a philosophical Realist?Oh yes?, do you even believe we once were an amoeba or something, now, build a brain lungs bones etc, that seem from scratch to me.
No doubt it does. Scientists know differently. Are you a philosophical Realist?
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