What You Despise The Most

larryicr · Sep 15, 2004

Veggie,

You can disagree with the dictionary all you want.
I will continue to use a dictionary to get my definitions from, you can continue to use your personal feelings.

MEOMY · Sep 15, 2004

larryicr said:
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2. Sexual activity with another of the same sex.

Maybe I'm dumb, but how would one use that definition of homosexuality in a sentence? ..."yeah, I homosexualitied this morning"... I'm not trying to make a point, I'm just wondering for my own amusement.

larryicr · Sep 15, 2004

Meomy,

how would one use that definition of homosexuality in a sentence?

I'm glad you asked such an easy question. Here's a sentance using homosexuality with the meaning of sexual activity...
"Homosexuality is becoming more and more accepted."
Another way of saying it...
"Same-gender sexual acts are becoming more and more accepted."

MEOMY · Sep 15, 2004

larryicr said:
Meomy,

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I'm glad you asked such an easy question.

Happy to oblige

Here's a sentance using homosexuality with the meaning of sexual activity...
"Homosexuality is becoming more and more accepted."
Another way of saying it...
"Same-gender sexual acts are becoming more and more accepted."

Well, I guess that's where you and I differ, because I don't think of a sexual act when I think of homosexuality. You do, I don't...whatever, we're off topic.

Mother Vashti · Sep 15, 2004

I hate vinegar chips. Cheez, what deranged sap invented vinegar chips ??? It's **** like this that really chaps my moral @$$.

Nathan David · Sep 27, 2004

Any kind of child abuse. I get especially upset at any violence where the victim is significantly weaker than the aggressor.

mpshiel · Sep 27, 2004

ANYONE who decides off thier own limited human understanding of the divine that some people can be Christians and some can't: That some should be allowed before God and some shouldn't. Or ANY who use thier personal religion as an excuse to deny someone else dignity, respect, equality and the freedoms that they enjoy.

All4one · Oct 8, 2004

because I don't think of a sexual act when I think of homosexuality.

Homosexuality is a sexual act. It is lustful also and Jesus said that if you lust with the heart you have commited the sin. I myself have lusted in the heart after a person or people for that matter thus I have commited a sin, you could not possibly believe it would be different with homosexuals. It is a despiteful act spitting in the face of God for the sacred union and roles of a man and women representing Christs union to the church. There is no " if, ands, or buts" about that.

In Christs Love,
All4one

mpshiel · Oct 8, 2004

All4one said:
Homosexuality is a sexual act. It is lustful also and Jesus said that if you lust with the heart you have commited the sin. I myself have lusted in the heart after a person or people for that matter thus I have commited a sin, you could not possibly believe it would be different with homosexuals. It is a despiteful act spitting in the face of God for the sacred union and roles of a man and women representing Christs union to the church. There is no " if, ands, or buts" about that.

In Christs Love,
All4one

See now I am confused. At first I thought there were a) virgins and b) homosexuals based on the previous definition that you could only be considered part of homosexuality while engaging in sexual acts...and then you revert back to post virgin, non-homosexual after the act is over.

Now there is like homosexuality-I which is class I homosexuality which involves the act itself and class II homosexuality when you think about the act or have lust. But when you don't I guess you go back to pre or post virginal state. Which is a relief to me as I can tell my parents I am not a homosexual except for less that 1% of my life (sorry I don't have a long fantasy life on a day to day basis).

But as you point out, all you know is that YOU are sinful and thus assuming that homosexuals (how does that differ from homosexuality again) are as well.

Also glad you cleared up the no if and or buts. Please post the spitting image to Courage, Canadian Anglicans and Canadian United, United Reform Church amoung others who still seem to have if's.

And what you despise most........?

GMRELIC · Oct 8, 2004

I dislike the self rightous, judgemental people who want to try to point out others flaws, and completely ignore thier own, when someone else own backyard is spotless then they can start trying to clean up mine.

All4one · Oct 8, 2004

mpshiel... You have explained it all yourself. Just simplify what you have said and notice. I do not wish to argue but I stand on the fact that to be a homosexual you do not have to commit an act.

In Christ,
All4one

All4one · Oct 8, 2004

GMRELIC, I am not sure that you are referring to me but I admit that I have lusted before in my life. As far as pointing out others flaws it seems that you would be applying that same self-righteous attitude if your going to condemn someone elses flaws. Like you said... before you clean someone elses yard clean your own. You condemn the fact that others condemn some actions. It is condemning all the same. Don't think that putting down "self-righteousness" excludes you from being self-righteous.

In Love,
All4one

Brimshack · Oct 8, 2004

I dispise the idleness of so much moral banter. So many people of so many different persuasions engage in such wishful thinking when they wax moral, propounding ideals they will never in a million years live up to. And for some that actually passes for wisdom, the notion that they will always fall short. That may sound like modesty, but it's also a very effective disclaimer, like adding "...not." to the end of all their moral musings. And hence, their ethics counts for nothing, and the more it tends towards nothing, the more unrealistic the ideals they propound. When it comes to ethics, I want to know what people are actually prepared to live up to. Anything else is pure self-indulgence.

Caylin · Oct 9, 2004

PRINCESSOFCHRIST said:
I Despise Homosexuality And Pornography The Most

Feeling the LOVE YA'LL!!!!

seebs · Oct 9, 2004

Brimshack said:
I dispise the idleness of so much moral banter. So many people of so many different persuasions engage in such wishful thinking when they wax moral, propounding ideals they will never in a million years live up to. And for some that actually passes for wisdom, the notion that they will always fall short. That may sound like modesty, but it's also a very effective disclaimer, like adding "...not." to the end of all their moral musings. And hence, their ethics counts for nothing, and the more it tends towards nothing, the more unrealistic the ideals they propound. When it comes to ethics, I want to know what people are actually prepared to live up to. Anything else is pure self-indulgence.

I almost agree with you.

There is, however, one thing I think you've omitted; the case where the shortcoming isn't just an excuse to give up and say "it doesn't matter", but rather, the focus of continuing and ongoing efforts.

Propounding wonderful ideals, and doing nothing, is a grave error. So is feeling smug because you're living up to nothing much in particular.

It seems to me that it matters what you think is right, even if you can't live up to it - but it is very important that you try. But... I would rather hold the ideal of "never be cruel to anyone", knowing that my temper makes this ideal unattainable, then to, some day, decide "I'm nice enough" and stop trying.

Brimshack · Oct 9, 2004

Okay, but notice that I didn't say that recognizing shortcoming is JUST an excuse. I said that it also serves as an excuse, as in the assertion also has that meaning in addition to whatever other things it may entail.

As to the prospect of doing nothing, that may very well be the flip side of the same coin, but notice also that I didn't say one should pick moral values that one is certain to manage, only that one should be prepared to live up to them. In other words, the morals one subscribes to ought to be framed in terms which give one a reasonable chance of living up to them rather than in terms which make it impossible.

With regard to your own example, I sincerely doubt that the force of your ethics hinges on the impossibility entailed in the "never," but rather in the ability to formulate actual strategies for acting in an other-than-cruel manner under various situations in which others would be more vicious. One might as easily say that the ethic is to not show cruelty, thus leaving out the never entirely, and allowing the principle to apply on a case-by-case basis rather than posing it as a question of generating a biographical fact with no exceptions. This is no less rhobust than stating a goal which cannot be realized in practice, and it helps to avoid the potential pratfalls of dissonance reduction strategies which would occur when someone suspects they have already blown the impossible goal (e.g. refusal to recognize the actual value of ones actions - how many are cruel without displaying a trace of awareness of their own actions? or of giving up entirely). Whereas you assert the ideal, you also aknowledge it's impossibility. Thus, your stance contains to contrary positions, which cannot both obtain. This doesn't strike me as an improvement over a stance which keeps the moral principle in the range of possibility to begin with.

Lillithspeak · Oct 9, 2004

What I find abhorrent is the propensity some have for using their supposed "moral" authority to oppress others. Never able to see the immorality of their acts to coerce, repress and a suffocate their fellow humans-must be that plank in their eye.

crashedman · Oct 9, 2004

All4one said:
I just wanted to open a talk where everyone tells something they cannot stand regarding morality. Not just that but also explain why.
This is not a hate column but a way for others to see peoples view on certain things happening in the world today.

Thank You
All4one

These are things that I despise:

1) Kiddie porn (last Thursday there was a gigantic bust in Australia where 55 of the arrests happened to be people in the state that I live in).
2) Things that are annoyingly cute like the Taco Bell dog
3) Oil companies like Texaco, BP and Shell who have been involved in environmental destruction and murder
4) Religious fanatics
5) Televangelists
6) Rapists
7) People who sell cigarettes and spliffs to minors. A lady friend of mine once took her children to a museum in a bohemian area of Australia called Byron Bay where some hippie was handing out spliffs to kids as young as ten years old. She just told her kids to look the other way and run!
8) swimsuits and bikinis/one-piece swimmers that are designed to titillate.
9) black metal, happy hardcore techno and opera. I'd rather have lighted matches stuck between my toes or have someone scratch their fingernails down a blackboard than defile my poor ears with **** like that
10) neckties
11) racists, sexists, hetero-sexists and gymnophobic Christians who call God's creation disgusting
12) Money
13) Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, Tooth-fairy and other mythical characters we use to reward conformist behaviour in children rather than teach them to do what is right of their own accord.
14) Child actors. That kid Webster and Gary Coleman used to give me the creeps. They were exploited and they didn't give a damn because they got paid for it.
15) AOL and Windows 98
16) Freemasonry (I've heard about some of the stuff that they get up to in their temples and lodges and it is plain HORRID!)

Uh, need I go on?

Crashedman

The Bellman · Oct 9, 2004

crashedman said:
These are things that I despise:
1) Kiddie porn (last Thursday there was a gigantic bust in Australia where 55 of the arrests happened to be people in the state that I live in).
2) Things that are annoyingly cute like the Taco Bell dog
3) Oil companies like Texaco, BP and Shell who have been involved in environmental destruction and murder
4) Religious fanatics
5) Televangelists
6) Rapists
7) People who sell cigarettes and spliffs to minors. A lady friend of mine once took her children to a museum in a bohemian area of Australia called Byron Bay where some hippie was handing out spliffs to kids as young as ten years old. She just told her kids to look the other way and run!
8) swimsuits and bikinis/one-piece swimmers that are designed to titillate.
9) black metal, happy hardcore techno and opera. I'd rather have lighted matches stuck between my toes or have someone scratch their fingernails down a blackboard than defile my poor ears with **** like that
10) neckties
11) racists, sexists, hetero-sexists and gymnophobic Christians who call God's creation disgusting
12) Money
13) Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, Tooth-fairy and other mythical characters we use to reward conformist behaviour in children rather than teach them to do what is right of their own accord.
14) Child actors. That kid Webster and Gary Coleman used to give me the creeps. They were exploited and they didn't give a damn because they got paid for it.
15) AOL and Windows 98
16) Freemasonry (I've heard about some of the stuff that they get up to in their temples and lodges and it is plain HORRID!)

What a strange list! It seems to me very strange to rank some of the things in the list below with the others as things that a person despises. For example, crashedman hates kiddie porn (1) and rapists (6) - with which hatred I wholeheartedly agree. But in the same list, he includes neckties (10) and AOL/Win98 (15). Seems to me a very strange juxtaposition...

In any case, a few comments...

crashedman said:
8) swimsuits and bikinis/one-piece swimmers that are designed to titillate.

Do you hate other items of clothing that are also designed to titillate? One of the main purposes of clothing has always been to entice...I wonder why you have an issue with it. In any case, the answer is simple...don't look.

crashedman said:
11) racists, sexists, hetero-sexists and gymnophobic Christians who call God's creation disgusting

I'm not sure what a "hetero-sexist" is, but I'm guessing it's someone who is prejudiced against heterosexuals. If this is the case, then I'd suggest that this is a vanishingly small class.

I've no idea what "gymnophobic" means. Someone who's scared of the gym?

crashedman said:
12) Money

Money is merely a convenient tool of exchange - no more. There's nothing evil about it.

crashedman said:
13) Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, Tooth-fairy and other mythical characters we use to reward conformist behaviour in children rather than teach them to do what is right of their own accord.

Just like using god for the same purpose?

crashedman said:
14) Child actors. That kid Webster and Gary Coleman used to give me the creeps. They were exploited and they didn't give a damn because they got paid for it.

This is a strange definition of "exploited". They knew what was happening and were happy with it...but they were exploited? Tell me...I go to work 5 days a week, and get paid for it...am I being exploited too?

crashedman said:
16) Freemasonry (I've heard about some of the stuff that they get up to in their temples and lodges and it is plain HORRID!)

Then you've heard wrong. They don't get up to anything "horrid". I suspect you've heard the usual urban myths and lies about freemasonry...and they are just that - lies.

crashedman · Oct 9, 2004

The Bellman said:
What a strange list! It seems to me very strange to rank some of the things in the list below with the others as things that a person despises. For example, crashedman hates kiddie porn (1) and rapists (6) - with which hatred I wholeheartedly agree. But in the same list, he includes neckties (10) and AOL/Win98 (15). Seems to me a very strange juxtaposition...

Well, it takes all sorts. Where I live, it is too hot to wear neckties most of the time unless you happen to be a Freddie Mercury fan and wear them without a shirt

Do you hate other items of clothing that are also designed to titillate? One of the main purposes of clothing has always been to entice...I wonder why you have an issue with it. In any case, the answer is simple...don't look.

For the most part, I tend to dislike clothes unless for practical use (warmth and protection).

I'm not sure what a "hetero-sexist" is, but I'm guessing it's someone who is prejudiced against heterosexuals. If this is the case, then I'd suggest that this is a vanishingly small class.

Correct. It is somebody who feels that homosexuals are an inferior race of people.

I've no idea what "gymnophobic" means. Someone who's scared of the gym?

Hahahahaha! Nice try: the word 'gym' means 'naked' in Greek. A gymnophobe is somebody who has a fear of naked people and wants to curb such activities happening in their area. Refer to Pastor Doug Ainley and Ralph Ovadal if you want a better explanation.

Money is merely a convenient tool of exchange - no more. There's nothing evil about it.

Well, more of the fact that it is so easily hidden. If we had a monetary system that was completely visible and immediately traceable we would see a lot of corruption, dishonesty and secrecy vanish from our society. There'd be no more 'backroom deal' antics or passing money under the table, no more income tax or reams of paperwork when it comes to the end of the financial year.

This is a strange definition of "exploited". They knew what was happening and were happy with it...but they were exploited? Tell me...I go to work 5 days a week, and get paid for it...am I being exploited too?

Well, where are they now? Acording to one Autralian TV critic and comedian, he reckoned that Emmanuel Lewis was lying down on a table in Costa Rica being massaged by a bevy of young women in nurses outfits. Gary Coleman is now a security guard and got done for beating up someone a few yrars back. But look at the rest of his TV family: nice wholesome Kimberly a shoplifter, Playboy pinup and dead of a drug overdose. Big Brother Willis gets busted by Beverly Hills police for posession of a firearm in his car. Boy, that Phil Drummond was such a bad father, eh?

Then you've heard wrong. They don't get up to anything "horrid". I suspect you've heard the usual urban myths and lies about freemasonry...and they are just that - lies.

There is a thread on the Australian forum about Freemasonry, and have heard some anecdotes from others who were involved in the movement. It gave me the creeps I can tell you.

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