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Not for some of us this has been a home of sorts and a Church of sorts and definitely a ministry....

I also join the ranks of those here on this website that converted here and then made this my home .... it is where I was edified and where others who were like minded taught me about my Faith.

I, too, am often laid up and disabled, therefore sometimes the only interaction I get with my fellow brethren is on this site and has been for a number of years now....

Not everyone is of the same opinion that you are Purifying Flame, please state it as your opinion not as though you represent all of us
 
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Nut for some of us this has been a home of sorts and a Church of sorts and definitely a ministry....
If CF has been those things to people, I pity them. Perhaps people should consider unplugging and taking a few steps out their front door - visiting a real church - interacting with and ministering to/with REAL people.
I also join the ranks of those here on this website that converted here and then made this my home .... it is where I was edified and where others who were like minded taught me about my Faith.
I am glad to know that this place has helped you, but this should not be church to anyone.
I, too, am often laid up and disabled, therefore sometimes the only interaction I get with my fellow brethren is on this site and has been for a number of years now....
I am sad to hear this. BUT, most churches have home ministries for those who are homebound. You should check into it.
Not everyone is of the same opinion that you are Purifying Flame, please state it as your opinion not as though you represent all of us
RR - I have never claimed to speak for more than just myself.
 
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Sorry I don't know the computer lingo.

But I don't see why CF can't remain CF
and still have an out reach.

members-christians only

but have a section where visitors can enter in discussions with Christians.
there those who feel equipped to interact, with ministry being it's purpose, can do so.
And those who don't just don't enter.


Is it really that complicated?
 
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I have to wonder - if this place has lost Christ as some people are saying in their signatures and their posts - why are they not shaking the dust from their feet and leaving?


I noticed you posted this after I posted a response to someone else.

I have read other's responses to this, and now I will respond myself.

I have spoken to many, many people and they feel the same way as I do. I will not leave because there are many things. My signature is my voice when I am away, and it clearly speaks in what I believe.

You do not know anyone's or my own situation of why we are still here. I will not shake the dust off my feet and walk away.

I feel as if my own Mission is not yet done here, even after all these months after my own departure. I will shake the dust off my sandals when the Lord tells me I am done.

I was always taught to fight for what I believe in, and I believe you do the same by what your own signature says.


God Bless.



 
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If CF has been those things to people, I pity them. Perhaps people should consider unplugging and taking a few steps out their front door - visiting a real church - interacting with and ministering to/with REAL people.
AMEN! This is why I say ministering to atheists online is a waste of time, for the most part. Cudos for the brilliant post.
 
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Things are more biblical now than they have ever been before.

Only in some limited respects. There are also many things now that are more UNbiblical than they ever have been before.
 
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I am sad to hear this. BUT, most churches have home ministries for those who are homebound. You should check into it.
My priest does visit with me .... however I need more interaction than that don't you think?
 
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There are some who would be killed if they ever entered a church, there are some who are physically are unable to, there are those who have been pushed out of their church and have no where to fellowship at the moment, there are those who have the calling for online ministry... there are a million reasons why CF can be part church, part fellowship, and part ministry for a person.

If you can't realize this because of how your church and fellowshipping plays into your life... realize how blessed you are to have such a great church. Not all of us are that lucky.
 
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What does option 3 look like? Well, it appears to be in direct contradiction of Erwin's vision on 7-7-2007


But hey, is anyone really suprised? Actually, yes, there were a few of us who actually believed this was the direction that Erwin wanted to take the site. And they poured alot of time and energy into trying to make that happen. But no more (at least from me). It has become obvious that more than half of this "vision" will never see the light of day. I don't know what happened on 7-7-2007 to cause Erwin to make this post. Maybe someone broke into Erwin's account and posted this as a joke? Who knows? But its obvious that these things will not materialize.

So, this is it for me. This bear is going back into his self-imposed CF exile. I hope the rest of you enjoy yourselves here. One last thing. CF is not turning out in a way that I can support - and that's ok. Not every place on the internet is made for everyone. But you won't see me trying to sabotage the reform effort. I won't be posting snarky comments in future threads as you guys continue your work on the New CF. No snide comments in my sig file, or snazzy put-downs for my avatar. I'll just be bowing out.

Cheers

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I'm going to weigh in here:

(1) I like the non-Christian mods. To be absolutely honest, those of us who aren't Christian got trampled by very biased Christian mods, and while the transparency is great, it doesn't actually solve the problem (afterall, the mods knew it was going on, but wouldn't do anything about it). That being said, I don't see why we would have a non-Christian moderating over what were formerly the Christians-only sections. How would a Muslim moderate over a Methodist forum? However, it does make sense to have them in the non-Christian religion, Liberal Theology, and Discussion & Debate sections. That is to mean if a particular group has a heavy presence in a section, then that group should have someone to represent them.

(2) Participating in the Christians-only section I can take or leave, I never went in, and have no real reason to go in now. However, it would be great if mods actually moved certain threads to appropriate forums. For instance threads about how awful atheists, or Muslims are should be moved to an area where atheists, or muslims can speak for themselves. I often found threads denegrating non-Christians in the Christians-only forums.
 
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yep..i see what your saying as well..id hate to see all the hard work in the wikis scrapped..but there was so much fighting..and the loudest person seems to win..or the last wiki editor.

Erwin..i think you either need to make the simpler, less legalistic rules you envisioned..or take part in the wiki rules process or something!!
 
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Stick it out for a bit and see what actually materializes. That's what I am doing. I am tried of all the arguing and am just waiting. Perhaps there will be an answer that can bring us all together in agreement. Perhaps I am just wishful thinking (won't be the first time) But anyway ... Don't Go! I just might need you again. I like having you around.
 
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Erwin..
here is my option 3 vision..

*keep the staff forums and reports open..but dont allow debating in the reports.

*keep all the forums here open to non-christians except for maybe opening ONE christian only forum for newer christians/teens anyone that feels they might need a safe place to fall and ask for prayer and be open to other christians etc.

*continue to let the congregational forums make their own rules

*continue to let members vote for mods but find a way to not let socks in..like saying you have to have 200 posts minimum to vote or something similiar

*don't bring back warnings/infractions the way they were..but maybe have an infraction system only for very big infractions..not as heavy handed as it was

*let non-christians mod in friendship, support and debate forums IF they are voted in by the members! But not mod in congregational areas.

*keep Christian Forums as the name!

*let members pick their own faith icons, and change them theirselves.

*be open to all who call themselves Christian..but those christians that don't follow the nicene creed..use the name "unorthodox". So you can then have orthodox...and unorthodox congregations set up!

thats all i can think of for now!
 
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Don't go Lookit, the way you're feeling now is the way many of us felt on the 7th. We've all felt like crap, so we all understand now how the other "side" has felt, and now we should use that understanding to build something *together* where all of us can be happy here. If we take the time to work it out collectively, we can have the best of both.

Stay, ok? Things can only get better. And on a selfish note, I like seeing you around.
 
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Sell the site to someone who has the time and energy to give leadership and vision to the site. Wikis and Polls only stir strife and do not produce any consensus. We don't even have consensus on what consensus is... and hours are spent on the word "[bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]."

Otherwise secure www.fingerinthewind.com and buy futures in popcorn and bandages.

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