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more anti-catholic rhetoric
Assuming yet again that Catholics simply submit to everything they are told without even examining the Scriptures for themselves
Does anyone know if decisions have been made?
I know the RCC has its damage control commentary. It goes something like this...Matthew 23:9 (New International Version)
"And do not call anyone on earth 'father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven."
"You can call someone father, as long as you do not call him "father."
No matter how they reason it? They still end up calling their pastors by the title of "Father." The very thing Jesus condemned.
When I read that passage the first time it sent up red flags. It made me shake my head in almost unbelief. It made me feel warned.
That is not anti-Catholic rhetoric.Matthew 23:9 (New International Version)
"And do not call anyone on earth 'father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven."
That is the Word of God.
In Christ, GeneZ
Sometimes we see what we believe, not believe what we see.
I believe - I see - you have no real answer.
Some believe whatever they are told. But, only on the condition that the one telling them what to believe, say they have the power to always be right. They follow him because they want someone to be always right for them.
In Christ, GeneZ
That's were your mistaken. I am not Catholic because my parents had a priest drip some water on my head when I was born. I am Catholic because after looking through the scriptures and looking through history, my only conviction is that the Catholic Church is of Christ and is what it says it is. If there is anyone who has no real answer, it is the person who told you that this prooftext somehow discredits the Catholic Church, which therefore means that he only sees what he believes as well.
Gene, this is not the place for criticizing the Catholic Church. You've been told that it isn't the place. You should stop.
Matthew 23:9 (New International Version)
"And do not call anyone on earth 'father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven."
I know the RCC has its damage control commentary. It goes something like this...
"You can call someone father, as long as you do not call him "father."
No matter how they reason it? They still end up calling their pastors by the title of "Father." The very thing Jesus condemned.
When I read that passage the first time it sent up red flags. It made me shake my head in almost unbelief. It made me feel warned.
Matthew 23:9 (New International Version)
"And do not call anyone on earth 'father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven."
That is not anti-Catholic rhetoric.
That is the Word of God.
In Christ, GeneZ
They have put off the decision making on this issue and continue to do soHow long is this discussion going to go on?
Does anyone know if decisions have been made?
(((Grizzly, grimy gopher guts)))This thread seems to be the place where eternal truths are pronounced from on high and are bestowed upon the unwashed masses. So far, I have learned
1) that I was never a Christian.
2) the real reasons why nonchristians are here
3) Catholics are not real Christians
4) that only one person here has access to these eternal truths.
I feel like I am posting in General Apologetics!
(((Grizzly, grimy gopher guts)))
Is it me? Am I the person?
Let me be the first to apologize.
- kib/hopper
They have put off the decision making on this issue and continue to do so
Erwin said:All these polls...
Hi everyone
Just letting everyone know I am keeping track of the polls. However, in the end, the decision of whether to change the name of the site (which is still a possibility) and change the vision of the site will remain mine. The truth is, whatever happens, it would be impossible to please all members, and members will leave the site (whether we become too "liberal" or "conservative", too "inclusive" or "exclusive").
I'm just making this post to let people know that the polls will assist and guide me, but will not make the final decisions for me.
God bless everyone who is participating in forming the future of this site. I'm closing this thread as the above is not for discussion, but a note to members.
hee, hee...LOL! Now I am going to have that song stuck in my head all afternoon!
Gene, this is not the place for criticizing the Catholic Church. You've been told that it isn't the place. You should stop.
Alan
Proof text?I see....... "proof text..."Matthew 23:9 (New International Version)
"And do not call anyone on earth 'father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven."
I saw it as a serious warning. Symptomatic of something much deeper.
I grew up with many Catholic friends. My neighborhood was mostly Catholics. Close friends. I only had a few friends who were not.
I learned first about the Catholic church how they joked about some of the rules and regulations. Some attended a Catholic academy.
But, that's neither here nor there.
Are you taught that passage is sufficient onto salvation? Works do not save. Our works only reveal the quality of our spiritual walk after we have been saved.Romans 10:9 (New International Version)
"That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved."
Acts 16:30-31a (New International Version)
He then brought them out and asked, "Sirs, what must I do to be saved?"
They replied, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved."
In Christ, GeneZ
Why is it the more people who know I'm Catholic act like the one Catholic friend they know is the authoratative source on Catholic Theology . Yes, I know those verses. And I also know that not everyone who says "lord, lord, will be saved, but those that DO the will of my Father. But in any event, back to the topic at hand.
Proof text?I see....... "proof text..."Matthew 23:9 (New International Version)
"And do not call anyone on earth 'father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven."
I saw it as a serious warning. Symptomatic of something much deeper.
I grew up with many Catholic friends. My neighborhood was mostly Catholics. Close friends. I only had a few friends who were not.
I learned first about the Catholic church how they joked about some of the rules and regulations. Some attended a Catholic academy.
But, that's neither here nor there.
Are you taught that passage is sufficient onto salvation? Works do not save. Our works only reveal the quality of our spiritual walk after we have been saved.Romans 10:9 (New International Version)
"That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved."
Acts 16:30-31a (New International Version)
He then brought them out and asked, "Sirs, what must I do to be saved?"
They replied, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved."
In Christ, GeneZ
Why is it the more people who know I'm Catholic act like the one Catholic friend they know is the authoratative source on Catholic Theology . Yes, I know those verses. And I also know that not everyone who says "lord, lord, will be saved, but those that DO the will of my Father. But in any event, back to the topic at hand.
I like your avatar!
We should have a generic but sound Statement of Faith to follow
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