PsychoSarah
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Martyrs didn't, but plenty of people have claimed to be of religions counter to their beliefs to stay alive.
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But the martyrs of God did not stay alive by claiming faith in Christ.
That is exactly what young earth creationists are accusing God of doing.I don't see how planting evidence at a crime scene has anything to do with the discussion.
That is exactly what young earth creationists are accusing God of doing.
The evidence that God left behind in "the stars, the rocks, and the genomes" all show consilient evidence of a universe that is ~14 billion years old, an earth that is 4.5 billion years old, and multi-cellular life that has been around for 3-3.5 billion years.
To claim that God put all of that evidence in place in a 6,000 years universe is to accuse God of deceptively planting evidence.
Or that Genesis isn't intended to be taken as literal history.Or, you could just say the bible can be wrong.
And what is quite frequently carried on that night air?Although, as god, I would understand not wanting to attempt to get ancient peoples to understand the complexities of evolution, a culture that thinks that night air causes illness is going to have a rough time believing in microscopic organisms.
Many claim things to be a citizen, or get a job, or be president...etc. Such is man.Martyrs didn't, but plenty of people have claimed to be of religions counter to their beliefs to stay alive.
No you are rattling off words as if they meant something. The flood is just a fact.I am showing the intellectual bankruptcy of unfalsifiable dogmas like flood geology.
Indistinguishable to who!!?? Science? They are so small who cares what they claim or think any more on the past??We have reached the point where creationists are claiming that a recent global flood would be indistinguishable from an old Earth and no recent global flood.
So? Flood geology is same state past geology that tries to include a flood. Time to grow up.Comparing flood geology to forensic science helps to show why this is bankrupt idea.
And if I didn't know better, I might think that some on this forum were claiming knowledge that never existed, except in a different state past, when everything was magic, and you could make reality whatever you wanted.Many claim things to be a citizen, or get a job, or be president...etc. Such is man.
If you see such a claim of knowledge that never existed, report it to us. There is so much knowledge that does exist, like the actual state past of the bible, that it would be a shame for someone to claim knowledge that did not exist.And if I didn't know better, I might think that some on this forum were claiming knowledge that never existed, except in a different state past, when everything was magic, and you could make reality whatever you wanted.
Considering how hard it is to fill a bathtub quickly without making waves, I don't understand how adding trillions of cubic meters of water to the earth in only 40 days could FAIL to created wind and waves. Can you explain?
An Ark made from cement would sink very quickly regardless of whether there were wind and waves or not.
We certainly know what kind of effect floods have on land now, why would things have been different in the past?
And yet the Flood depicted in Genesis contains no record of God stilling the storm or calming the waves so in fact you are NOT looking in the Bible for these answers.When referring to an event in the Bible, I try to use the same Bible as the source for answers. Using standard Geology textbooks seems like a diversion from a real answer. If this theory of mine is correct, then highly educated people would tend to be less religious as they look for answers in books written by others.
He stilled the storm to a whisper; the waves of the sea were hushed.
"Take me up, and throw me into the sea. Then the sea will be calm
for you; for I know that because of me this great storm is on you."
Luke 8:24 The disciples went and woke him, saying, "Master, Master ...
... waves. Suddenly the storm stopped and all was calm.
Psalm 89:9 You rule over the surging sea; when its waves mount up ...
... You have rule over the sea in storm; when its waves
are troubled, you make them calm.
Job 26:12 By his power he churned up the sea; by his wisdom he cut ...
... By his power the sea grew calm. By his ... He divides the sea with his power, and by his understanding he strikes through the storm
ThanksWe do it every day.
About concrete boats
Except for the fact that none of them occur in story of the Flood. You are adding to the Bible.The writings about the great flood suggest it was not a natural event.
In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, on the seventeenth day of the second month--on that day all the springs of the great deep burst forth, and the floodgates of the heavens were opened.
Even if it were "natural" the passages above would apply.
And yet the Flood depicted in Genesis contains no record of God stilling the storm or calming the waves so in fact you are NOT looking in the Bible for these answers.
40 days and nights of rain most certainly is a storm.There is no storm or waves mentioned.
I need not answer invented problems.
So back at you.
I would have to agree that there was stormy weather in the flood year..40 days and nights of rain most certainly is a storm.
You do realize that all the geological features you claim to have been created by a Flood would not happen if the waters of the Flood were still and placid, right?
You do understand there is no possible way for 40 days and night of rain, the windows of heaven to be opened, and the fountains of the great deep to be broken up and yet have the surface of the rising waters be still and smooth as glass, right?
I would have to agree that there was stormy weather in the flood year..
It may have been metal reinforced wood for all I know. No one even knows what 'gopher wood' means or is.Those animals would have been tossed around, assuming that the boat didn't just fall apart...
It may have been metal reinforced wood for all I know. No one even knows what 'gopher wood' means or is.
Since the ark had GPS they would have avoided the worst places! Remember, this was not some fluke but a carefully planned operation by God.
He was the One that called the animals, and the One who closes the big ark door. He was the One who opened the portals of space and made the water come through. He was right there after the flood, making a rainbow. He gave them post op instructions. The flood was just one rung in the salvation plan for man.
That is a total misconception. Science doesn't even know man existed when the flood occurred or where the flood layer is!!!! I assume it was near the KT layer for example. What does science know about man then? Nothing. They only go by fossils and remains that were able to be left. Man was not among them apparently. Forget knowing about the laws in place at that time or what man could do and knew!But we do have an approximate time of the alleged flood, and we have a pretty good knowledge of what was available to the people back then.
All of the world was a carefully planned operation by God, and in the end, He had no choice but to destroy it with a flood and start over. Think about it.
So He planned all along to create all those pre-flood peoples just to drown them?
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