• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

What will happen if, science runs across definitive proof of God?

bhsmte

Newbie
Apr 26, 2013
52,761
11,792
✟254,941.00
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Others
I'm not sure if it's been asked, but what if there was undeniable proof not only of God, but of a god that is wildly diffefent from the one you believe in? How would you react?

That question always is skipped over in these hypotheticals, most just assume proof of a God, would be the God they believe in.
 
Upvote 0

agua

Newbie
Jan 5, 2011
906
29
Gold Coast
✟23,737.00
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Single
Politics
AU-Liberals
What was the process you used to come to these conclusions?

[FONT=&quot]Firstly it’s a given that Yahweh does no evil nor does he temp with evil. Of course this will be challenged by anyone who has a different concept of or standard of evil. From the Christian standpoint Yahweh does no evil and so we can be safe in suggesting that Yahweh doesn’t influence people to do evil. This is seen throughout the Bible and is summarised in James.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]
[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Jas 1:13-15 KJV[/FONT][FONT=&quot] Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: (14) But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. (15) Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]We can then investigate the individual circumstances of this heart hardening to see if they’re consistent with this premise. The most discussed is Pharaoh in Exodus. From the introduction to this particular Pharaoh we can see he was very hostile towards the Israelite ( I’ll let you read about the infanticide order and increased workload etc in Exodus 1. ) and so it can’t be said that Yahweh caused this Pharaoh to have this heart/mindset. We also have indication from scripture that Yahweh is omniscient which includes knowing the future, or what will happen.
[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]
[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]From here it’s a short step in logic to see that Yahweh’s influence on this Pharaoh wasn’t to introduce the hostility but only to reveal and likely hasten it. This subject is quite complicated and includes more study of omniscience, judicial propriety, and the timelines which will culminate in the last days. [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Is that sufficient explanation? ( I know it’s brief ) [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Can I ask if you believe justice demands judgement and punishment? [/FONT]
 
Upvote 0

agua

Newbie
Jan 5, 2011
906
29
Gold Coast
✟23,737.00
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Single
Politics
AU-Liberals

Yes it answers my question thanks and your answer is consistent with the scriptures.
 
Upvote 0

agua

Newbie
Jan 5, 2011
906
29
Gold Coast
✟23,737.00
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Single
Politics
AU-Liberals
That question always is skipped over in these hypotheticals, most just assume proof of a God, would be the God they believe in.

Yeah that's true. The atheist possibly also has a particular version of the hypothetical god that they would prefer. It makes for a great Monty Python scetch
 
Upvote 0

bhsmte

Newbie
Apr 26, 2013
52,761
11,792
✟254,941.00
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Others
Yeah that's true. The atheist possibly also has a particular version of the hypothetical god that they would prefer. It makes for a great Monty Python scetch

Going out on a limb with this.

I would imagine, a non believer in a god, does not spend a lot of time worry about which hypothetical god may exist.

A believer on the other hand.........
 
Upvote 0

agua

Newbie
Jan 5, 2011
906
29
Gold Coast
✟23,737.00
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Single
Politics
AU-Liberals
Going out on a limb with this.

I would imagine, a non believer in a god, does not spend a lot of time worry about which hypothetical god may exist.

A believer on the other hand.........

I disagree !

A believer thinks only about the One True God. ( This sketch is a good one )
 
Upvote 0

bhsmte

Newbie
Apr 26, 2013
52,761
11,792
✟254,941.00
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Others

Lot of assumptions there, but hey, that is why it is a faith belief.
 
Upvote 0

JGG

Well-Known Member
Mar 12, 2006
12,018
2,098
✟65,945.00
Faith
Seeker
Marital Status
Private
That question always is skipped over in these hypotheticals, most just assume proof of a God, would be the God they believe in.

Maybe. But it is a potential answer to the question of the OP. There are so many vastly different god concepts that any given person is likely to be wrong about it. That assumes that there even is one, and that someone, somewhere has even a broad idea of what it is.

If most Christians are prepared to embrace the new, proven concept then that's probably what most people will do. If most deny this proven god, then that is what most people will probably do.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Upvote 0

agua

Newbie
Jan 5, 2011
906
29
Gold Coast
✟23,737.00
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Single
Politics
AU-Liberals

Why do you think humans think so much about our origins, in general ?
 
Upvote 0

quatona

"God"? What do you mean??
May 15, 2005
37,512
4,302
✟182,802.00
Faith
Seeker
Why do you think humans think so much about our origins, in general ?
I think the question for "our origins" is sufficiently answered. The actual question now appears to be: Why are some people not satisfied with these answers?
I don´t know, I am not one of them.
You tell me.
 
Upvote 0

agua

Newbie
Jan 5, 2011
906
29
Gold Coast
✟23,737.00
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Single
Politics
AU-Liberals
quatona

I think the question for "our origins" is sufficiently answered. The actual question now appears to be: Why are some people not satisfied with these answers?
I don´t know, I am not one of them.
You tell me.

Are you referring to the Atheist population ie. the %3 ?
 
Upvote 0