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What was Instituted at creation?

bugkiller

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I very curious what translation are you quoting from for these two verses? I don't recognize the translation and I have around twenty.

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Great points. I have been saying this very thing for 10 years directly the SDA folks with no results of any kind.

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Do you really think that the text you used justifies your comments?
Your comments contradicts too many scriptures to count.
Dats the SDA way. They are in de Nile (denial) about every scripture that doesn't their theology. They despise Paul to the max. You should read their version of Heb 1:1, 2 if you want yer blood to really boil.
The highlighted puts an expiration date on the law.
Teachers are called to give understanding to the scriptures not to contradict and add to God's word by commentary.
Dat be their prophetess.

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Faulty premise with no foundation.
Jesus would never make something God called holy, unholy.
Technically you are correct by your theology in practice and wrong by your FB on the trinity. What do you do with Hosea 2:11 I will also cause all her mirth to cease, her feast days, her new moons, and her sabbaths, and all her solemn feasts. This is a list which says the Sabbath will cease spoken by God through Hosea. Incidently the word translated cease here is also the word translated rested in Gen 2:2, 3 and varified with the word ended. Now that is a very interesting statment: Jesus was made Lord of the same day God blessed. How can this be according to your theology that Jesus created the world? If Jesus created (made) why wouldn't He also be Lord (Master)? Your quote of Mk 2:28 is great! Notice I changed the color of also in your quote. What was Jesus also Lord of. Is He only Lord of The Venerable Day of Saturn? What about the other six days do they belong to satan? You are simply in love with false premises, aren't you?

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Indeed you are funny.

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The word translated as 'added' means annexed. The word annexed could be used without changing the meaning. The word amended could also be used.

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Thanks for dropping by this thread bugkiller.. That's what this forum is all about.

Family should expose false teachings or people will reject God's word in exchange for commentary.
 
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If sabbath was instituted at creation for all of mankind, why was it given 2500yrs later as a sign to seperate one nation called Israel from all other nations of the world, if sabbath was ever instituted at creation?

Genesis 2:2: And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

Genesis 2:3: And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

Therefore, the seventh-day Sabbath rest was instituted at creation. It later became more than just a memorial of creation. It became a memorial of recreation, of being brought out of bondage.


It is evident today and scriptually, that marriage was instituted at creation.

and God's sanctification of the seventh day was also instituted at creation, if the Genesis record is to be believed.

Did God's original plan for the sabbath fail or are commentaries wrong and the scriptures accurate?

God's original plan for the Sabbath fails whenever we forget that He is the Creator of the universe, when we forget that He set aside a special day and sanctified it as a day to remember Him and His creative work. I've always felt that as long as we remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy, we can never be an evolutionist (of the macro-believing variety), because we will always remember that the universe did not self-evolve, but was created.



God had to start somewhere. He started by calling out a people through whom He hoped to reach the rest of the world. He proclaimed, through Jewish scripture the words: "Look unto me and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth, for I am God and there is none else." Isaiah 45:22. So the Sabbath was first a sign between God and Israel, but it was to be extended to the rest of th world through their witness.


the Sabbath is a sign between God and Abraham's children (the Israelites), but we gentiles have been grafted into the vine through Jesus Christ so that "if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise." Galatians 3:29. The Sabbath, then, applies to us as much as to the Jews, for we too are considered to be Abraham's seed and heirs according to the promise.
 
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I believe, the work of creating us 'in the image of God' followed by His rest, comes first in types and symbols, bringing faith and hope. The reality comes as scripture is fulfilled, in the time God has appointed.

In Gen 2:3, The 7th day is God's work to 'BLESS' and 'SANCTIFY' what has been 'FINISHED'! This work is not completed till God finishes His work of creating 'His image...in both male & female'. Then, and only then will God rest from His creating!

When His image (his Spirit) lives In us and We In HIM, the work of creating is 'finished',
God's work of BLESSING and SANCTIFYING is what seals this work of creating, then REST follows...
 
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Genesis 2

(2 By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work. 3 And God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done.)

If you compare the first six days to the seventh day you see that there is always a statement to bring each day to a end. This statement was not included following the description of the seventh day which did not have a endpoint this is where God Rested.

Adam and Eve then entered into gods rest and where given 1 commandment not to eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

breaking this commandment was death, and by doing so they were no longer in Gods rest and where driven from the garden.



God can only bring man back into rest now through Christ. Also
If the Sabbath were a shadow of God's rest in Christ, man could not possibly be brought into this rest without the shedding of the blood of the paschal lamb which pointed to the great sacrificial Lamb of God.


Sorry i may of expanded the topic some
 
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I commend you on finding God's "My rest", but this event you found never repeated in a weekly period like the sabbath did, and Jesus flatly stated that the sabbth was "made for man" in Mark 2:27, showing that God's rest wasn't the origin of the sabbath.
 
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