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What "trigger warnings" mean to me.
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<blockquote data-quote="rambot" data-source="post: 71984507" data-attributes="member: 145797"><p>But here's the thing: Trigger warnings don't mean I now have to AVOID the plays I saw. It means I can decide whether I want that kind of intrusion into my headspace. And for people who suffer from their trauma more than me, I think that would be important.</p><p></p><p></p><p>To a great extent, I agree with this. What bothers me is the idea that one person's trigger affects, in a meaningful way, the experience of others. Switching to jazz hands is not ok in my mind. BUT, a quick heads up that a play will have scenes with self harming does NOT effect you or anyone else in that audience and so if they say it for my benefit, why are other SOOOO up in arms about it?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Of course not, because you are not bothered by "jazz hands".</p><p>I have no compulsion for society to stop talking about or portraying self harm, but I can't wrap my head around the CONSTANT bellyaching around a 1 sentence warning.</p><p></p><p></p><p>First off, the fact that "mental health" is killing them more is because men choose FAR more violent and lethal ways of killing themselves. Check the suicide attempt stats and your picture reverses itself. </p><p>Also, there is evidence that women more likely experience violent trauma in their history.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>While I'd agree many of them haven't seen blood, we don't KNOW what kind of trauma they have been through. We make ASSUMPTIONS about them though.</p><p></p><p>While I agree there have been circumstances where I've read here where a bit of "buck up, l'il camper" seems like it would make sense, I can't say for certain. And I don't think their INTENT is to degrade the idea of trigger warnings.</p><p></p><p></p><p> I agree with this. BUT, it leads to a bit of a slope; I think street harassment of women can/could be traumatic. I think DIRECT incidents of racism can be traumatic. Ultimately, trauma IS a very broad word (in honesty, it's something I struggle with a bit too). But it isn't only trauma that leads to "brokenness"; it's resiliency in the face of trauma. Some people don't have any resiliency; some people LOVE the victim pity card.</p><p></p><p>Many don't though. Many have actually been through some significant shhhhh.</p><p></p><p></p><p>1) I would suggest to you first and foremost that it is not your (or anyone else's place) to suggest they know best how to "sort someone out". It is their journey to figure out.</p><p>2) Are you under the impression that people that get triggered by things ENJOY it? I would guess that you are not, but if you can understand that people don't like getting triggerred by things, you may want to consider that those people are in the process of figuring out HOW to overcome their fears. And that gets done by him/herself figuring out the bests contexts and situations to do it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rambot, post: 71984507, member: 145797"] But here's the thing: Trigger warnings don't mean I now have to AVOID the plays I saw. It means I can decide whether I want that kind of intrusion into my headspace. And for people who suffer from their trauma more than me, I think that would be important. To a great extent, I agree with this. What bothers me is the idea that one person's trigger affects, in a meaningful way, the experience of others. Switching to jazz hands is not ok in my mind. BUT, a quick heads up that a play will have scenes with self harming does NOT effect you or anyone else in that audience and so if they say it for my benefit, why are other SOOOO up in arms about it? Of course not, because you are not bothered by "jazz hands". I have no compulsion for society to stop talking about or portraying self harm, but I can't wrap my head around the CONSTANT bellyaching around a 1 sentence warning. First off, the fact that "mental health" is killing them more is because men choose FAR more violent and lethal ways of killing themselves. Check the suicide attempt stats and your picture reverses itself. Also, there is evidence that women more likely experience violent trauma in their history. While I'd agree many of them haven't seen blood, we don't KNOW what kind of trauma they have been through. We make ASSUMPTIONS about them though. While I agree there have been circumstances where I've read here where a bit of "buck up, l'il camper" seems like it would make sense, I can't say for certain. And I don't think their INTENT is to degrade the idea of trigger warnings. I agree with this. BUT, it leads to a bit of a slope; I think street harassment of women can/could be traumatic. I think DIRECT incidents of racism can be traumatic. Ultimately, trauma IS a very broad word (in honesty, it's something I struggle with a bit too). But it isn't only trauma that leads to "brokenness"; it's resiliency in the face of trauma. Some people don't have any resiliency; some people LOVE the victim pity card. Many don't though. Many have actually been through some significant shhhhh. 1) I would suggest to you first and foremost that it is not your (or anyone else's place) to suggest they know best how to "sort someone out". It is their journey to figure out. 2) Are you under the impression that people that get triggered by things ENJOY it? I would guess that you are not, but if you can understand that people don't like getting triggerred by things, you may want to consider that those people are in the process of figuring out HOW to overcome their fears. And that gets done by him/herself figuring out the bests contexts and situations to do it. [/QUOTE]
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