Many of u know my doubt in God existing started with a fear of no heaven. I can either not look up near death experiences for the hope I may not doubt in heaven or I can continue to look into that stuff and possibly go to hell for not just trusting either way I seem to get no solace. What do I do? Not worrying about it is impossible because who just says ok heaven might not exist and not worry about it.
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tripletiger1200
Amazing Grace, How Sweet the Sound
If you stop looking them up and stay away from it long enough, the discomfort will go away. If you ignore thoughts and doubts, as hard as it is, they lose their bite and your mind forgets. That's how my doubts or intrusive thoughts have gone away. It's hard, but if you decide to stop thinking about it, that shows you trust Him, and it makes it better. It is hard, but if you just pray for the self discipline to help you to do that I think you'll be surprised at what you find happens.
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SoldierOfSoul
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"If life exists, then God exists. If God exists, then heaven exists."
You could try some quick and easy to remember references that you can bring to mind when the doubts come.
A few more:
"If there is evil, then there is good. If God is good, then evil will be defeated in time."
"The universe did not create itself, something does not come from nothing."
"Jesus died for me, therefore I can trust Him."
C.S. Lewis said this:
“Faith is the art of holding on to things your reason has once accepted in spite of your changing moods”
Try to remember what you have once accepted to be true and trust in that no matter what OCD says.
You could try some quick and easy to remember references that you can bring to mind when the doubts come.
A few more:
"If there is evil, then there is good. If God is good, then evil will be defeated in time."
"The universe did not create itself, something does not come from nothing."
"Jesus died for me, therefore I can trust Him."
C.S. Lewis said this:
“Faith is the art of holding on to things your reason has once accepted in spite of your changing moods”
Try to remember what you have once accepted to be true and trust in that no matter what OCD says.
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I don't understand how either of these things are going to helP me stop doubting God and heaven exist.
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Now, about all of the times I've told you to "stop worrying."
I didn't mean to make it seem like I was just telling you to "Stop it!" I understand that this isn't something that has a switch you can just flick and turn off when you get tired of it. I understand that this is extremely difficult to deal with.
However, not dwelling on your fears and essentially refusing to engage in thought processes about your fears is something that is extremely helpful, and perhaps even essential, to getting better from your OCD.
This is an art, an art that is very difficult to master. You basically are trying to figure out how your mind thinks so that you can know when to let yourself calm down and not think so intensely about something.
I hope I didn't come across as annoyed, pushy, unsympathetic, or misunderstanding in my earlier posts. And I'm sorry if I did. I certainly don't want to come across as some grumpy know-it-all type.
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No no one here has been rude to me. Maybe I should explain a little better. I can honestly see myself doubting heaven and God the rest of my life because I need proof so bad. This will probably land me in hell. How do I sit by so to speak and not focus on it, then I am never going to get the proof I need that heaven is there and I am so scared it isn't I want to know it is by looking up everything I can.
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SoldierOfSoul
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Over time you will only doubt that one too, might as well stick it out with Christianity!
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Feelings are erratic, abstract, and unpredictable. Plus, you've already shown that you have very strong feeling of desire to just be a Christian without having to worry about doubts and stuff. If your feelings could determine your belief system, which they can't, then you would probably be more towards Christianity than the other religions you are concerned about.
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