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Revelation 21

The New Jerusalem

1Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away

http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20071...inthemaking;_ylt=AjN5yl2umDbDRAmuu9NkHZWs0NUE


Astronomers See Second Earth in the Making

Astronomers have spotted evidence of a second Earth being built around a distant star 424 light-years away.
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Using NASA's Spitzer Space Telescope, astronomers have spotted a huge belt of warm dust swirling around a young star called HD 113766 that is just slightly larger than our sun. The dust belt, which scientists suspect is clumping together to form planets, is located in the middle of the star system's terrestrial habitable zone where temperatures are moderate enough to sustain liquid water. Scientists estimate there is enough material in the belt to form a Mars-sized world or larger.

At approximately 10 million years old, the star is just the right age for forming rocky planets, the researchers say. Their finding will be detailed in an upcoming issue of Astrophysical Journal.

"The timing for this system to be building an Earth is very good," said study team member Carey Lisse, of the Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory in Baltimore, Md.

If the star system were too young, the planet-forming disk would be full of gas, and it would be making gas-giant planets like Jupiter instead. If it was too old, Spitzer would have spotted rocky planets that had long ago formed.

The star system also has the right mix of dusty materials in its disk to form an Earth-like planet, Lisse said.

Using Spitzer's infrared spectrometer instrument, the team determined that the material around HD 113766 is more processed than the snowball-like stuff that makes up infant solar systems and comets, which are considered cosmic "refrigerators" because they contain pristine ingredients from the solar system's formative period. But it is also not as processed as the stuff found in mature planets and asteroids.

"The material mix in this belt is most reminiscent of the stuff found in lava flows on Earth," Lisse said. "I thought of Mauna Kea [in Hawaii] material when I first saw the dust composition in this system – it contains raw rock and it's abundant in iron sulfides, which are similar to fool's gold."

Earlier this year, scientists announced they had discovered one, and possibly two, already formed Earth-like planets around Gliese 581, a dim red star located only 20.5 light-years away. The planets, called Gliese 581c and Gliese 581d, are located at about the right distance from their star to support liquid water and life as we know it, but many more observations are needed to confirm this.

To date, planet hunters have discovered more than 250 extrasolar planets, or "exoplanets." Most of the distant worlds, however, are giant gas planets several times the size of Jupiter.
 

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Interesting this is. Exoplanets are very interesting and I wonder if ever in my lifetime should the human race touch the surface of a world beyond the confines of our system. It would be remarkable to consider that these possibly habitable worlds may have been graced with life by our Maker.
 
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Interesting this is. Exoplanets are very interesting and I wonder if ever in my lifetime should the human race touch the surface of a world beyond the confines of our system. It would be remarkable to consider that these possibly habitable worlds may have been graced with life by our Maker.

Agreed:wave:

Fuuny the way you said INTERSTING ...this is
It reminded me of Yodas speach pattern:D
 
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Revelation 21

The New Jerusalem

1Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away

http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20071...inthemaking;_ylt=AjN5yl2umDbDRAmuu9NkHZWs0NUE


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:swoon: Oh no!! Some of that pre-recorded history again. Hey was there a rapture or something? Events just aren't going according to plan. Oh well....Very interesting article below.

Have Christians Already Accepted The Mark Of The Beast?
By Chuck Baldwin
http://www.chuckbal dwinlive. com/c2007/ cbarchive_ 20070814. html

Christians throughout church history have debated the nuances of
Eschatology. These debates will doubtless last until Jesus Himself
decides to end them. Until then, the theological battles extolling or
condemning premillennialism or postmillennialism, pre-tribulation
Rapture or post-tribulation Rapture, etc., will continue. To be sure,
this column is not an attempt to resolve or even argue these
interpretations of Scripture. Let every man be persuaded in his own
heart. Personally, I don't think it's worth arguing about. (continued)
 
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Earlier this year, scientists announced they had discovered one, and possibly two, already formed Earth-like planets around Gliese 581, a dim red star located only 20.5 light-years away. The planets, called Gliese 581c and Gliese 581d, are located at about the right distance from their star to support liquid water and life as we know it, but many more observations are needed to confirm this.
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Remember, the planet that has any water on it's surface is the planet that has and can sustain life. So far, as far out into space as can be scientifically seen, no such planet has been spotted yet.
 
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With the sheer scale of the Universe, it is simply in probability laws that there will be earth-sized planets within the habitable zone of a star's orbit.


I often think how humbling it would be if life were found on another planet. Man in our feeble attempt to understand God puts the almighty in a box. How silly we must seem :(
 
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C.S Lewis' Space Trilogy is quite thought provoking!

I highly recommend it, especially the first two books "Out of the Silent Planet" and "Perelandra".

As far as the earth like planets being formed, a dim red star is not conducive to human life . . the other system, well, it will be eon's before there are new planets like ours . . .

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C.S Lewis' Space Trilogy is quite thought provoking!

I highly recommend it, especially the first two books "Out of the Silent Planet" and "Perelandra".

As far as the earth like planets being formed, a dim red star is not conducive to human life . . the other system, well, it will be eon's before there are new planets like ours . . .

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Thank you for the recommendation, C.S. Lewis is great.
 
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Thank you for the recommendation, C.S. Lewis is great.
Yes. C.S. Lewis is a brilliant author and so was his friend, Tolkein. I find that C.S. Lewis is openly allegorical in his work. However, Tolkein, despising allegory, is more subtle and symbolic. He expresses his theological vision through the narrative and its interwoven themes. Here is a good read on the theology of Professor Tolkein: http://dlibrary.acu.edu.au/staffhome/dacasey/Tolkien.htm
Interestingly, as Tolkein conveys, death is not the result of Original Sin, but rather, he perceives mortality as a gift to humanity. In regard to suffering, Tolkein seems to suggest that this theme was woven into the fabric of reality as Morgoth (think the Devil) brought discord and disharmony into the Grand Music of the Ainur (angelic spirits). This Grand Music, comprising many themes, is given substance by Eru (the One) as matter, and thus the themes comprising the music, are made real. An interesting notion this is, that creation is akin to a symphony. It seems to also have it's basis in science if you consider String Theory.
 
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Yes. C.S. Lewis is a brilliant author and so was his friend, Tolkein. I find that C.S. Lewis is openly allegorical in his work. However, Tolkein, despising allegory, is more subtle and symbolic. He expresses his theological vision through the narrative and its interwoven themes. Here is a good read on the theology of Professor Tolkein: http://dlibrary.acu.edu.au/staffhome/dacasey/Tolkien.htm
Interestingly, as Tolkein conveys, death is not the result of Original Sin, but rather, he perceives mortality as a gift to humanity. In regard to suffering, Tolkein seems to suggest that this theme was woven into the fabric of reality as Morgoth (think the Devil) brought discord and disharmony into the Grand Music of the Ainur (angelic spirits). This Grand Music, comprising many themes, is given substance by Eru (the One) as matter, and thus the themes comprising the music, are made real. An interesting notion this is, that creation is akin to a symphony. It seems to also have it's basis in science if you consider String Theory.

What a Beautiful way of looking at life! So excited by the link. The Lord of the Rings Triology (the books) are one of my absolute favorites, I can not count the times I've reread them, and I see something new each time. Thank you so much for the link.
 
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With the sheer scale of the Universe, it is simply in probability laws that there will be earth-sized planets within the habitable zone of a star's orbit.

Is it probable there will be creatures like these on these new earths??


http://www.users.bigpond.com/rdoolan/platypus.html

Echidnas and platypuses are unique in their biology, lifestyle, and habitat compared with other mammals, reptiles, and birds. They are nothing like one another, yet evolutionists believe they must have evolved from a common ancestor. We believe that the alleged evolutionary ancestry of echidnas and platypuses is unexplainable because they did not evolve, but were created by God looking essentially similar to what they are today.
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If you walk through the Australian countryside and see what looks like a wire brush stuck in an ants' nest, it may be an echidna having a snack. And if the echidna (pronounced ik-KID-na) regards you as a danger, it will probably abandon its meal of ants or termites, roll into a spiky ball, wedge itself into a crack, or rapidly burrow straight into the soil until only its sharp spines are exposed. This gives it excellent protection from almost anyone who doesn't have a shovel to dig it out.
The hedge-hog-like echidna is also known as the spiny anteater. It looks nothing like the water-loving platypus (which has a bill like a duck, a tail like a beaver, webbed feet, and soft velvety fur), yet they share one unique feature: they are the only mammals in the world that lay eggs!
All other mammals known give birth to live young. This has led to the classification of the echidna and platypus in a distinct scientific category known as the monotremes. Monotremes have a single opening for their digestive and genital organs

Monotremes are a scientific puzzle for evolution. They are clearly mammals because they have milk glands, hair, a large brain, and a complete diaphragm. Yet they also resemble reptiles and birds in that they lay eggs, their blood temperature is influenced to some extent by their surroundings (as is reptiles'), and the platypus's bill is like a duck's.
What on earth could such different animals as the echidna and platypus have evolved from?
The answer is that no one has any idea. The oldest monotreme fossils show little difference from today's animals, so there is no fossil record to indicate they have evolved from any other type of creature


Coelacanth: world's oldest fish?
(Embarrassing evolutionary assumption falls flat!)

Evolutionary scientists used to think that amphibians evolved from a group of fishes that included the coelacanth, which was known only from fossils. But they dropped this idea when living coelacanths were found from 1938 showing no evidence of evolution from the oldest fossil coelacanths to the living examples.The evidence from the coelacanth is good evidence for creation, for it shows that DNA, the genetic code, has remained stable throughout time.

http://www.users.bigpond.com/rdoolan/CrabMystery.html

Evolutionists have no idea how crustaceans such as crabs could have evolved. Hypothetical ancestors don't seem to exist, and there is not even agreement on how the different crustaceans are interrelated. We believe this is because God created crustaceans as crustaceans in the beginning — they did not evolve.

Helpful animals explode “survival of the fittest” idea.
(Why do some animals help others without seeking rewards, if evolution's idea of survival of the fittest is true?)


There are many examples of animals helping other animals, which shows that the evolutionary idea of “survival of the fittest” is flawed. We believe that the explanation for helpful animals cannot be found in a purposeless theory like evolution, but rather in understanding that God the Creator has placed the world's array of animals on earth for His glory as they fill particular roles in the planet's ecology.


Komodo dragons: Why do these killer lizards leave some evolutionists speechless?
Komodo dragons are the largest lizards on earth today. There is evidence from fossils that lizards in the group to which komodos belong were even larger in the past. But there is no evidence that they ever evolved from non-reptiles.
 
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The sun is one of about 100 to 400 billion stars in our galaxy, which in turn is one of about 140 billion galaxies in the Universe.

Now, surely somewhere, statistics have to say, there is the possibility for weird and wacky life
According to M-Theory, there are infinite numbers of universes, each with its own physics.

Anything that can happen is happening. How cool is that.

We live in a multiverse!
 
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Yeah.

The problem comes though that there is no way of testing the Multi-verse theory currently, so it's on the boundary between science and science fiction, as it's not fully quantifiable. It does provide an answer to the anthropic principle though, I guess
 
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Yeah.

The problem comes though that there is no way of testing the Multi-verse theory currently, so it's on the boundary between science and science fiction, as it's not fully quantifiable. It does provide an answer to the anthropic principle though, I guess
It is the only mathematical solution to the singularity problem.
 
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